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Bigdog

30-03-2009, 09:05 AM

Looks like Casey Stoner is going to have another great year in MotoGP. He was fastest in 2 of the 3 sessions held over the weekend in Jerez and was the only rider in the 1:39's for session 2 and he won the BMW with a superfast lap of 1:38.646 which was .719 seconds quicker than his nearest rival Rossi.

Stoner takes 2009 BMW M Award with hot lap at Jerez
Sunday, 29 March 2009

Ducati Marlboro’s Casey Stoner was the winner of a special edition BMW 135i in Sunday’s showdown session at the MotoGP Official Test.

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The 2007 World Champion Casey Stoner was untouchable in Sunday afternoon’s BMW M Award at the southern Spanish circuit of Jerez, dominating the session onboard his formidable Desmosedici GP9 machine.

Stoner registered a superb 1’38.646s lap in the final ten minutes of the session even finding time to give a wave to his Ducati Marlboro team in their pit-box as he flew down the main straight at the end of the lap. Shortly after, the session was brought to a premature close by rainfall, with just over three minutes remaining on the clock.

The winner of last year’s BMW M Award in the rain at Jerez, Stoner’s repeat trick earned him another car to add to his collection, picking up a 135i ‘BMW Sauber F1 Team Edition’, of which only 135 have been made.

The reigning World Champion and winner of the 2007 BMW M Award Valentino Rossi got closest to Stoner with a 1’39.365s time, which put him second on the timesheet, 0.719s behind the Australian. Like Stoner, the Fiat Yamaha man is enjoying a good preseason and the pair look like they will push each other hard for the title in 2009.

Behind the front two it was Rizla Suzuki’s Loris Capirossi and Chris Vermeulen who sandwiched fourth placed Fiat Yamaha rider Jorge Lorenzo in the top five.

Causing a surprise in sixth place was Mika Kallio who impressed his Pramac Racing crew with his pace, despite running off track at one point.

In the continued absence of injured team-mate Dani Pedrosa, Repsol Honda’s Andrea Dovizioso was the fastest HRC representative. A good performance from returning Ducati rider Sete Gibernau, meanwhile, saw him lap eighth quickest on his Grupo Francisco Hernando satellite bike.

The top ten was rounded off by San Carlo Honda Gresini’s Toni Elias and the winner of the 2006 BMW M Award, Monster Yamaha Tech 3’s Colin Edwards.

With around 15 minutes remaining Edwards’ team-mate James Toseland suffered a nasty highside crash and was stretchered away, as his problematic preseason continued. The session was briefly red flagged as the English rider was given medical attention at the side of the track, with early reports from Clinica Mobile later indicating that he was heavily bruised but not seriously injured.

The 2009 MotoGP preseason concludes on Sunday afternoon after a final 3.15pm – 6.00pm free practice session, with the riders reconvening at the Losail International Circuit in Qatar for the first race of the year on the 10th-12th April weekend

Dave75

30-03-2009, 09:28 AM

wasn't he also quickest last year? didn't help him win the championship....

GO ROSSI!!!!!!

Captain

30-03-2009, 09:43 AM

I hear Lorenzo was also lightening quick early in the day .... surprised he has the time for practice, given he is so busy making comics and other promotional material :Rossi:

Big Lunt

30-03-2009, 10:12 AM

Stoner is quick that's without a doubt........

I think that the close racing presents a different set of variables

Let's hope to see more of the great racing from Laguna Seca last year!!!!

Stu23

30-03-2009, 10:33 AM

Think were in for another stunning years racing :) cant wait

Birdman45

30-03-2009, 10:42 AM

Stu23

30-03-2009, 10:56 AM

CE allways good pre season, tends to wander later....JT trying way too hard, hes gunna hurt himself big time...CE's got in his head ! Needs to calm down, was within 2000'th of a second of CE in FP2 Threw himself down the track early on in the FP3 BMW award session !!

Look at the lap times and see who is consistantly putting in long runs and fast times

Bigdog

30-03-2009, 11:13 AM

It's one lap, big deal. CE in the top 5 again, JT with nothing, I love it. LOL See how they all go after 15-20 laps on the same tyres and still have someone up their arse to fend off. THAT is gonna be awesome to see.

It wasn't just one lap Trev, In the shortened QP he did 4 laps faster than Rossi's best.
In FP2 he did 12 laps faster than Rossi's best.
That's a whippin in anyones language. I can't wait for the actual racing to start. Stoner is quoted as saying he will be more agressive this year and will dive in under the brakes a bit more into corners when attempting passes.
Should be some good racing this year.

Stu23

30-03-2009, 11:19 AM

zRoYz

30-03-2009, 11:41 AM

That comment from Stoner worries me !!! If he pushes the limit under brakes and into the apex he always loses the front...he pushes it so hard, used to watch him smash his brains out on the LCR bike every meeting...he doesnt need to change hes quick enough already. Hope Rossi hasnt done his head in already !

Nah Stoner needs to do that so he can carve up Rossi like Rossi does to others. Rossi is an unbelievable rider but he pushes passes under brakes more than any other rider & when questioned about just says "that's racing". Any other rider does some of the braking moves Rossi does & they get labeled reckless so Stoner needs to do the same as Rossi because it is an area Rossi is the strongest because he will push it to the extreme of punting other riders wide.

I'm want Stoner to win the camp but in the end as a spectator don't care about who wins the camp would much rather watch them race crash or win. The only time all last year Rossi passed Stoner was under brakes so if he can stuff it in as hard as Rossi it should be some good panel bashing racing.

Stu23

30-03-2009, 11:46 AM

Would love to see Stoner carve up Rossi, would be a fantastic race to watch, I just remember him pushing to the Apex and beyond, a couple of times last year and he binned it.......by all means stuff it up the inside, get it stopped and turn it, be a great thing to see :)
I remember Rossi and Gibbers ( who aint doing too bad I see ) bashing each other stupid for 2 or 3 seasons...stunning racing, he was the only guy to give it back to Rossi consistantly..

muzz

30-03-2009, 03:51 PM

:lmao:
Would love to see Stoner carve up Rossi, would be a fantastic race to watch, I just remember him pushing to the Apex and beyond, a couple of times last year and he binned it.......by all means stuff it up the inside, get it stopped and turn it, be a great thing to see :)
I remember Rossi and Gibbers ( who aint doing too bad I see ) bashing each other stupid for 2 or 3 seasons...stunning racing, he was the only guy to give it back to Rossi consistantly..

i think you will be waiting a while to see that:lmao:
fast on practice is one thing ,finishing first in the real race is another
stoners a great rider no doubt i wish i had half his skill

dazzler

30-03-2009, 04:49 PM

yip very similiar to ant west

shit qualifier but grear racer

he reckons its hard to race against the clock, but when you have a target in you sights much easier,
this may be the difference between stoner and rossi. rossi is great at reminding you he is still behind you and can overtake whenever he wants.....wether thats the case doesnt matter... it makes you push a little harder and makes it easier to make a mistake due to that pressure, you can loose alot of points that way,if not a DNF for the race and rossi takes away 25 for the win

Turtle

30-03-2009, 04:51 PM

Go !!! Casey !!!!

RIPPERTON

30-03-2009, 05:40 PM

nice cage

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/wall11.jpg

oz r1

30-03-2009, 06:36 PM

It wasn't just one lap Trev, In the shortened QP he did 4 laps faster than Rossi's best.
In FP2 he did 12 laps faster than Rossi's best.
That's a whippin in anyones language. I can't wait for the actual racing to start. Stoner is quoted as saying he will be more agressive this year and will dive in under the brakes a bit more into corners when attempting passes.
Should be some good racing this year.

Totally agree john :ayyy:let's hope this continues on to the track ,i think it will and so much for haydon nearly 2 seconds of casey and did'nt tend to improve his times much all threw the test days.Still i think it's going to be a two horse race (rossi,stoner) and then lorenzo,pedrosa etc will fill the other spots , but it'll be a cracker of a season.

James

30-03-2009, 06:56 PM

nice cage

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/wall11.jpg

:tfg:

wade193

30-03-2009, 10:32 PM

nice cage

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/wall11.jpg

I like it. Was picturing something uglier. I wonder if he will ever drive it.

Captain

30-03-2009, 10:40 PM

Pictures

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-test-irta-jerez-marzo/big_03_valentino_rossi_03.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-test-irta-jerez-marzo/big_andrea_dovizioso_06.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-test-irta-jerez-marzo/big_casey_stoner_03.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-test-irta-jerez-marzo/big_casey_stoner_05.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-test-irta-jerez-marzo/big_casey_stoner_07.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-test-irta-jerez-marzo/big_chris_vermeulen_03.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-test-irta-jerez-marzo/big_james_toseland_00.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/motogp-2009-test-irta-jerez-marzo/big_randy_de_puniet_00.jpg

Bigdog

30-03-2009, 11:38 PM

Sweet pics, as always, Captain :ayyy:

Captain

31-03-2009, 08:03 AM

Thanks mate. Notice Stoner's foot on the rear brake in pic 3 ... and just how high the brake lever seems to be set.

Stu23

31-03-2009, 08:44 AM

And hes using it big style isnt he.......He sure can ride that bike.......like it was meant to be.....

*Oggy*

31-03-2009, 09:03 AM

Great photo's.....

Dave75

31-03-2009, 09:12 AM

great pics captain

Dave75

31-03-2009, 09:14 AM

Bigdog

31-03-2009, 09:30 AM

if it comes to a battle between rossi and stoner, rossi will out-smart stoner everytime.

That's not tkaing anything away from casey, he is quick but he doesn't have the racing mind of Rossi. Same as shamacher in Formaula 1

I wouldn't say that mate, you forget that he is young, very hungry to win and he's learning more all the time. When your that fast the rest will come with more experience.

Birdman45

31-03-2009, 09:47 AM

The difference this year between how people test and qualify and how they go come race day is the tyres are now consistent, never had that before in GP. I think you'll find a few surprises on the top box this year and plenty more on the podiums. Maybe not race 1, but as the year goes on. This tyre rule is gonna be awesome I rekon............ again, 2 laps faster, 4 laps faster, big deal.......... see how he goes when someone is jamming him every corner and he's eating his tyres out and with 5 laps to go, his tyres are spent and there's 2 or 3 riders all trying to get by, THEN we'll see how fast he is. LOL

Captain

31-03-2009, 09:53 AM

We'll see, won't we?

This is what we should do; everyone give their predictions for the year .... in black and white, no going back, and those who claim to know it all but are proven wrong will line up, bend over, and at the end of the year those who were right get to give them a big kick up the butt! :lmao::lmao::lmao:

I've always wanted to do that:cursing:

:ayyy:

Stu23

31-03-2009, 10:33 AM

I think that Stoner learnt a lot from last year, hes not there yet but hes going to be better at fighting and biding his time this year. No doubting Rossi, hes the Master at tactics, but he wont have it all his own way.. One person I will be watching is Capirossi, the Suzuki looks good, consistant and fast.....Now he does know how to Fight Rossi, and is also ruthless.....one to watch !

Dave75

31-03-2009, 10:36 AM

I wouldn't say that mate, you forget that he is young, very hungry to win and he's learning more all the time. When your that fast the rest will come with more experience.

true bigdog however will that learning come at the expense of Stoner trying to hard and crashing?

Either way can't wait for it to start. Strange that casey is the only rider to get the best of if the duc......what's with that?

Stu23

31-03-2009, 10:39 AM

He is just so agressive ........he just lets the leccy's get on with it and winds it on harder....he also had great corner speed and the Duc is extremely fast and agressive with its power delivery....just how he likes it............I also think Massive Cahoona's !!

Dr freedom

31-03-2009, 10:43 AM

Vermins lid has a sticker on the rear of it of something I seen him talking about on 60 Minutes.. he has a few old T-Bucket Fords & whatnot for a hobby at home

Birdman45

31-03-2009, 01:21 PM

OK, here are my top 5 in no order, just a top 5 come years end, just for Captain. hahaha I know this is gonna bite me so hard...... but here goes.

Lorenzo
Rossi
Stoner
Edwards
Pedrosa

Bring it bitches. haha

Captain

31-03-2009, 01:27 PM

Dr freedom

31-03-2009, 02:07 PM

What, or who will be the main challenges though?
Stoner v Rossi?
Doviz v Lorenzo?
Pedbot v Edwards?

Stu23

31-03-2009, 02:24 PM

Rossi Stoner Dovi Lorenzo Pedrobot Capirossi.................In no particular order
!! will be fighting it out most weekends :)

Birdman45

31-03-2009, 02:26 PM

haha ... lol, I wasn't having a go at you mate, just having a go generally as I'm sure we've all experienced experts (no worries there, we all have a view) but sometimes it would be good to revisit at the end .... without people changing their story to suit :lmao:

I'm still going for Rossi for a win, Stoner 2nd.

Nah didn't take it that way, just thought I'd start it off. I rekon Cap and CV maybe even Melandri at some circuits might be up there, but in the end I rekon that will be the top 5 in some sort of order.

Bigdog

31-03-2009, 11:17 PM

My tips for the Championship:

1st:Stoner
2nd: Rossi
3rd: Pedrosa

clarkey

01-04-2009, 07:29 AM

My tips for the Championship:

1st:Stoner
2nd: Rossi
3rd: Pedrosa

Ill Take ,

1st:Stoner
2nd: Rossi
3rd: Lorenzo
4th:Pedrosa/Vermulan

Think danny a bit damaged to cause any this year , one more off on his knee and that would surely be his season -

mark515

01-04-2009, 02:55 PM

Casey very quick

Go Ducati

i think casey has the maturity this year to be able to cope with rossi & his games from last year, & i think he will still try & dissapear during the race if he can just to show how dominate he can be

1-Stoner
2- Rossi
3- Vermulen

Turtle

01-04-2009, 03:48 PM

1.Rossi
2.Stoner
3.Lorenzo

Birdman45

02-04-2009, 11:47 AM

which I rekon is what will bring him undone. But time will tell. Who cares, just bring on the f'kin racing for god's sakes. LOL

rats666

02-04-2009, 07:59 PM

I'll take

1st. Stoner:mod_smilie_rockwoot
2nd. Lorenzo
3rd. Vermulen (hopefully):)

Rossi tocrash out on 3rd corner trying to overtake :beer:

Johnny

02-04-2009, 10:19 PM

Think were in for another stunning years racing :) cant wait

We keep telling ourselves this, it may end true. :lmao:

Sorry, Im the pesimist, but ever since bikes went to the 800 scene, its just getting more and more boring year by year, watch the first three laps, come back and watch the final lap, and you havent missed much.

Controlled tyre will only add to this, as atleast chances of one tyre being better suited to, or another tyre not going the distance, may of altered the race, now, it comes down to who crashes or has mechanical issues. No or next to no battle.

Belinda

03-04-2009, 12:39 AM

1) Randy De Puniet
2) Nicky Hayden
3) James Toseland

Thats for the best looking :ayyy: (blame Captain) and for the race results -

1) Rossi - he is still young and arrogant enough to stay on top

2) Stoner - I think Rossi will still have it over him in the mind games dept, especially under brakes.

3) Dovizioso - I just really liked watching him last year, cool, calm, collected and on a factory Honda

Toseland will be wrestling Melandri for the wooden spoon ($1.05 at SportBet......:stirthepot:)

:lmao:

Cedric

03-04-2009, 12:41 AM

Sorry, Im the pesimist, but ever since bikes went to the 800 scene, its just getting more and more boring year by year, watch the first three laps, come back and watch the final lap, and you havent missed much.

I agree Johnny, I sincerely hope that the monotyre rule and that the rookies must go to a satellite team make for more competitive racing but I'm not holding my breath. Perhaps I'm looking at the past through rose tint but I feel that up until 2007, Grand Prix racing was looser, closer and more exciting. Time will tell. But I can see myself down the pub watching WSBK and only casting a cursory eye to MotoGP as I doze while Rossi/Stoner/Pedrobot win on the podium with 10secs between them..

Anyway, all been said before many a time.. Should broadcast the 1989 GPs again in place of the 2009 season.. Gardner, Lawson, Rainey, Schwantz, Doohan, Sarron.. :ayyy:

1. Rossi
2. Stoner
3. Lorenzo..

Birdman45

03-04-2009, 08:53 AM

The guys saying the control tyre will make it even more boring, I used to read the same thing about WSBK and look at that now........ the problem mainly has been Michelin and they're fukt up ways of controlling everything to the point of dictating what tyre you will actually run even after you have made your choice of tyre and chose a different one. You'd think WSBK and the same crap they tried doing there would have taught them something but it didn't, so suk the big one, bye bye, go back to backing out of wars and the like, which if you think about it, is what they have made happen here also. LOL (Tyre war)

Where before you'd have two riders on Michelins and the brand on the tyre was about the only similarity, so one rider would piss off and one would be screwed 5 laps in, we'd all sit here and marvel at how the A rider on the SAME TYRES (riiight) just pulled away while the other rider couldn't keep up This year they have the same tyres. It can ONLY make the racing better, not worse. The difference of tyre deal may have worked if they shuffled the tyre allocations around, but that never happened, and the same guys would always run away from the rest coz of the tyres. Won't happen this year, and if it does, at least we know that it's the rider and not the tyres. We'll have battles with guys that have to manage the same tyre at the same amount of wear etc and get to the line first, where as previously, it was a case of one tyre being shat and the other with 10 laps still left, who's gonna win that? haha

Captain

03-04-2009, 09:49 AM

I am critical of the control tyre, but not saying it will make it more boring ... rather, it probably WILL result in closer and more exciting racing.
What I believe is that it will do nothing for tyre development, and I stick to that opinion.

Birdman45

03-04-2009, 10:32 AM

going by that then, Michelin will have the worst road tyres available very shortly, and so will Dunlop. LOL Doubt that. No way you need to race GP to develop tyres. You could hire any track you want to, take 5 recenly ex GP riders or similar and develop tyres all day and night at a fraction of the cost of racing GP, it has nothing to do with it.

zRoYz

03-04-2009, 02:56 PM

I have the solution for close racing, every rider has to skull 5 turkeys when the lights go green/red or whatever color they use these days to start the race, then start riding. Now that would be entertainment :lmao:

Seriously just bring on the racing & let the best man win :ayyy:

My predictions for the year:
Stoner to win championship & more races than anybody else.
Rossi will be a close second because he prefers to come from behind.
Hayden wont get better than a 5th place all year.
Toseland wont be in motogp next year because he will still crash out of 10th place continually.
The rest of the pack will be the normal try hards just like little toot, "they think, they can".

*Oggy*

03-04-2009, 03:09 PM

Should be like the Premier soccer league in the UK.... Top 5 WSB riders have to go to Moto GP and bottom 5 MotoGP to WSB... same with WSS to WSB....

By the third year, it will be greater racing.....................

Turtle

03-04-2009, 04:22 PM