Why do they give the little shit so much credit???

[Lopeman]

Just read this.

Cant believe how much credit and leway they give this guy.

Yes he is fast but i havent ever seen him really race hard against Rossi or Stoner. Rossie is always the man to beat, and realisticly Stoer is the only one who seems able to give it back a bit with any sort of consistency


Shuhei Nakamoto, the new Vice President of the Honda Racing Corporation, believes that Honda must accept full responsibility if Dani Pedrosa does not win the world championship this year. When Honda builds a better and faster bike then Pedrosa will win, according to Nakamoto.

“If Dani does not win the world championship it is Honda’s responsibility, not Dani’s,” Nakamoto said. “This is the Honda way. If we win the championship then the rider is good, if we don’t win the championship
then bike is not good --- this is the Honda way.”

The new policy from Honda, unknown to previous HRC riders who were often blamed for not winning, has started with the return of Nakamoto to HRC management.

Pedrosa, 23, is now in his fourth season as factory Repsol Honda, the team that dominated 500cc and MotoGP with Mick Doohan and Valentino Rossi.

[RobotPimp]

It's true they haven't got the RC212V set up to the standard they had the RC211V when it was dominating the championship... but it is a typical Japanese management style to place the emphasis on the company to perform as a whole rather than select individuals alone.

Given Nakamoto's experience, and Pedrosa's healing injuries I think Honda will begin to shine as the sesaon progresses.

It's also a fairly well known "secret" that they're coveting Lorenzo as lead rider... and given his rivalry with Rossi it may one day ring true!

All the same I'd like to see Stoner smoke the lot of them! :mod_smilie_rockwoot

[dazzler]

put vale back on the hoonda you may get better results.....

you cant blame the bike ALL the time its kinda 50/50

its a well known fact that pedrosa doesnt like a dog fight, he likes streaking away to a big margin win... thats his style

[Captain]

I like Honda's (new) philosophy though, very noble.
From what I've seen of Pedrosa I think he's a great rider, he might not be the world's best but he's near enough to the top. Good enough to not deserve the term 'the little shit' ... but each to their own I guess.

[Mozzie]

They give him credit because he is good ,and you give credt where credit is dew.

[spotcom]

They give him credit because he is good ,and you give credt where credit is dew.

+1 . I admire anyone who's made it to MotoGP. Yes, it is the pinnacle of motorcycle racing.

Also agree with Captain's remarks - very noble of Honda to have the top guy come public with this kind of talk. Seriously folks, we need more of this kind of language in this world.

[gazujc]

Pedrosa is good, very very good in fact and that is why he is amongst those that deserve credit and yes, it is up to Honda to ensure that he hast he tools necessary.

Pedrosa's record in the 800cc era is third behind only Rossi and Stoner who are the only championship winners of the 800cc era, so it is fair to say that Pedrosa is mighty good. Whether he wins a title is yet to be decided but there is no shortage of talent in that aspect, but there is a lot more competition.

As for the comments for Honda, well one would expect that they should take the tact as they should have learnt from the Rossi fiasco and I dare say that Nakamoto-san is a better diplomat







Garry

[1down5up]

i am sure ponds ( danni`s manager ) wrote that press relese ( he must have some good dirt on honda ) throw danni on the ducati . see how good he is . if he can ride it like stoner then ill change my mind about him
+1 loperman

[ozimoto]

They chucked Hayden because they blamed him for poor results.

Is it because the little Spanish shit comes from the biggest motorcycle market in Europe that they now blame the bikes?

He's only good when he can streak away.

Hope Honda sinks backwards so they realize they need to listen to all their riders and not pin their hopes on one.

[Boony]

Its always been the Honda way they don't care who the rider is so long as he just shuts up and rides they want a bike that anyone can win on.
What where they thinking when they let Rossi and the engineers walk over to Yamaha.

Good job boys go Yamaha

[jasonbw]

Anyone who can fight with the top 10 in a motogp race is worthy of godly respect in my opinion Lopeman, maybe you're setting unrealistic expectations based on runaway champs like Doohan and Rossi, but a top ten in motogp is mightly FAR from average.

Spot on Mozz.

[Turtle]

I blame Honda for not making a small enough bike for Pedrosa to touch the ground with both feet.....

[Falco]

Remember this from the 2007 Australian GP


Click mehttp://media.redbalcony.com/thumbs/1192465527.jpg (http://www.redbalcony.com/?vid=21413)


Must have been something wrong with the bikes launch control. :lmao:

[Turtle]

Remember this from the 2007 Australian GP


Click mehttp://media.redbalcony.com/thumbs/1192465527.jpg (http://www.redbalcony.com/?vid=21413)


Must have been something wrong with the bikes launch control. :lmao:

Yep...what a tool........

[Irish]

Must have been something wrong with the bikes launch control. :lmao:

Yeah - it wasn't switched on :spank:

Hopper must have pissed himself laughing!

[Birdman45]

i am sure ponds ( danni`s manager ) wrote that press relese ( he must have some good dirt on honda ) throw danni on the ducati . see how good he is . if he can ride it like stoner then ill change my mind about him
+1 loperman

I doubt putting even Rossi on the Duc would see him at the front. And if Rossi thought he could be, he would have gone to them instead of Yamaha. Just coz the Duc suits Stoner doesn't mean someone else isn't as good if they can't ride that bike like he can.... Put Stoner back on the Honda and see what happens...... just the same as what you're saying about the Duc.

[*Oggy*]

Would be good to have a one off 3 race series.....

all on the Honda, then Yam, then Ducati

Good for bragging rights and then we'd see who seems the best rider and who is best to adapt to the others....

Never happen...but we can always wish.

[Jungleboy]

Just coz the Duc suits Stoner doesn't mean someone else isn't as good if they can't ride that bike like he can.... Put Stoner back on the Honda and see what happens...... just the same as what you're saying about the Duc.


I doubt it very much, Id bet my left nut that stoner would be right up there on the Yamaha or the Honda!

Even in his rookie season on the LCR Honda he scored a pole and was fastest in many morning warm ups sessions, flashes of what happened next season were already showing in his rookie season on a privateer Honda! :ayyy:

[gazujc]

I doubt it very much, Id bet my left nut that stoner would be right up there on the Yamaha or the Honda!

Even in his rookie season on the LCR Honda he scored a pole and was fastest in many morning warm ups sessions, flashes of what happened next season were already showing in his rookie season on a privateer Honda! :ayyy:


True Jai, and of course lets not discount the Bridgestone influence of today as Stoner is far more confident and comfortable on the Stones than on the Michelin of that year.

I reckon CS is one of a few seriously talented riders doing the rounds now days





Gaz

[Pymm]

jeez, if he doesnt win then its the manufacturer's fault? honda feeling like sepuku is the manly way to lose?

[Kat00]

you cant blame the bike ALL the time its kinda 50/50

Not according to Rossi and Burgess......They reckon its 80% rider. I doubt many could have won on that Yamaha in the first year so I'd say their estimation would be pretty close to the mark.

[Captain]

Jerez 2009
Well well well .... not bad for being 'the little spanish shit'. A few should hang their heads in shame (IMHO).

[*Oggy*]

He may be a bit of an upstart, but you see the injuries he has and how he gets on the bike and rides like that ....

Well for a little guy he's got more guts than most of us... and the same for most of the elite riders as far as not giving in to the pain barrier.

Not like he's doing it for the money !

[Lopeman]

i stand by my comment. i never said he wasent a great rider, would lap me, and everyone here, day in day out.

i was more concerned by his complete lack of personality, and constant search for an excuse.

[Dunno]

i stand by my comment. i never said he wasent a great rider, would lap me, and everyone here, day in day out.

i was more concerned by his complete lack of personality, and constant search for an excuse.

I dont like the little bugger either although I think Alberto Puig has had a major influence on him.
That said Pedrobot doen't need to make any excuses now that Honda have come out & taken resposibility for any lack of results. Probably takes a huge weight off his shoulders & allows him to ride the thing knowing he wont be losing his job if the results dont come.

I wonder if they have given Dovi the same leverage? He is doin a good job with less than half the experience of Dani.

[Birdman45]

I doubt it very much, Id bet my left nut that stoner would be right up there on the Yamaha or the Honda!

Even in his rookie season on the LCR Honda he scored a pole and was fastest in many morning warm ups sessions, flashes of what happened next season were already showing in his rookie season on a privateer Honda! :ayyy:

hahahaha so for Stoner it was a sign of things to come, he even got a pole and was fastest in warm up sessions. But for CEII that is under performing as he hasn't had a bike he can ride to the extent Stoner suits this Ducati. Riiiiiiiiight On a privateer Honda Edwards would have won two races if not for team orders and was faster than Stoner most of the time, so what you're saying doesn't really make sense. You can see every week now with the equal tyres that if something is a lil beter for one rider on one bike, they run away.... if you don't nail your set up, you'll struggle. Put Stoner on Dovi's bike and if that doesn't suit his style like the Duc does, he'll struggle, or crash his brains out like he did in the lower classes.

[Dave75]

They give him credit because he is good ,and you give credt where credit is dew.

I agree that he is good but he doesn't seem to be able to do anything brillant in the races? he goes out 100% from the beginnning and always dies towards the end....am I imagining this?:confused:

[Captain]

It looks that way to me too Dave, you just knew Rossi would catch him and overtake him. I know he's recovering, but he's been this way as far back as I can remember. I wonder why.

[Birdman45]

well he could do what Lorenzo does and just keep thrashing it until he falls off. LOL I am sure if the bike and tyres were up to it he'd have walked away with it.

[Captain]

Maybe, yet he does perform better earlier on. Does he go out all guns blazing so that he wears himself out? Does his riding style mean that the tyres are shot earlier than the others'?
What do you mean by the 'bike' Birdman45? Does it get tired too? :) :stirthepot:

[dazzler]

pedrobot goes all out at the start because its a well known fact he does not like a dog fight... most of his wins are run aways he is not one to battle you lap after lap like rossi does who enjoys this very much!!!

notice as soon as rossi got past dani, he could not keep up, he has the pace he showed that in the middle of the race, they say its much easier to follow than to lead but dani is probably the other way around...

did you know that pedrobot is roughly 48kgs

[Underground]

:mad:Such malice and vitriol....some of you really need to go and hug your mothers.

[burlo53]

I reckon he did good at Jerez.Stop pickin on the little fella,he's on a Honda and i wish i was that fucking fast!So do you that knock him.Only got beaten by the fag,not that there's anything wrong with that hahaha!

[BART]

Short memories..... Pedrosa was sensational in the 250's and really rode the wheels of the bike. He is an excellent rider in MotoGP and will always be a front runner.

[Captain]

Maybe, but where have his fingers been?

http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/NOTIMOTO_090505_001G_tcm11525429.jpg

[Birdman45]

hahahaha agreed on sledging Pedro..... doesn't like a fight? hahaha How do you explain him passing Rossi last round then?? Maybe he couldn't keep up with Rossi as Rossi was faster on the day and Dani's bike wouldn't allow him to be able to keep up. Even Pedro was surprised they did so well, he never even tested there this year...... the guys a freak, just coz he's had a personality bypass operation doesn't mean he can't ride. And away from the media etc he is just fine....... like everyone else......

[saf]

Maybe, but where have his fingers been?

http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/NOTIMOTO_090505_001G_tcm11525429.jpg

Looks like he's been fingering some of those umbrella girls with the painted on leathers... :clap:

[Dr freedom]

he just looks like a puppet that is told what, where & when to do things.. sit down Danny, stand up Danny, win a race Danny, bend for your boss Danny..

[jasonbw]

he just looks like a puppet that is told what, where & when to do things.. sit down Danny, stand up Danny, win a race Danny, bend for your boss Danny..

Fark your mean, I only don't like him cause of his butt ugly nose!

[jasonbw]

Hey, I just noticed in the 'colourful hand' photo of Dani... Dani has a heavenly glow around his head.. could he be our new saviour? I thought Rossi was God!!!

[Dr freedom]

Hey, I just noticed in the 'colourful hand' photo of Dani... Dani has a heavenly glow around his head.. could he be our new saviour? I thought Rossi was God!!!
Depends on who you speak with .. the Honda fan boi's will say as such, although at the end of the day, reality wins & danni is more like the alterboy, rather than the god himself

[Dr freedom]

Maybe Pedbot needs a better PR consultant or something .. a little change to his image

[saf]

Given the topic of the thread seems to be a hateful perspective of Pedrosa it's quite fitting that you should dump some of your resentment in here.

I couldn't give a stuff about Pedrosa. Whoever wins the race wins, no sense in crying about it because you don't like him for whatever personal reasons. And honestly I couldn't give a toss what you think of those gloves. I'm hardly going to get upset because some bloke on a forum said they didn't look new. Boo hoo.

Wait what's that noise? Could it be the care police? :lmao:

[Dr freedom]

Given the topic of the thread seems to be a hateful perspective of Pedrosa it's quite fitting that you should dump some of your resentment in here.

I couldn't give a stuff about Pedrosa. Whoever wins the race wins, no sense in crying about it because you don't like him for whatever personal reasons. And honestly I couldn't give a toss what you think of those gloves. I'm hardly going to get upset because some bloke on a forum said they didn't look new. Boo hoo.

Wait what's that noise? Could it be the care police? :lmao:
the care police are wondering, for someone who says they dont give a stuff, as to why you keep on about it :baby:

Pedrosa is overated & the way it appears Honda runs their business in the garage, nothing special will be happening for them anytime soon, let alone Pedboy, either.

[Mozzie]

He was very lucky to finish the last race, He had a fair chunk out of his rear tyre.Id say it would have happened near the end.

[Nuff]

He was very lucky to finish the last race, He had a fair chunk out of his rear tyre.Id say it would have happened near the end.

It was his front tyre, not rear

[Mozzie]

whoops.Thanks Nuff:spank:

[triumph]

whoops.Thanks Nuff:spank: you havent been wearing your glasses er mozzie .

[Turtle]

He's still up there.......