Looking for some advice on what to do with CBR600RR afte an off at EC.

[Darke99]

Hey all, as the title suggests, I'm pretty bummed about the off at turn 9 at EC on Monday and want some advice as to what to do.

The major isses I can see so far are the bent frame at the enginemount lower right hand side, probably a new crank case needed and new front fairing stay and fairings. I'm not sure if everything is staright so it may need to be checked over. I kind of want to do something with it soo so the engine doesn't seize as all the oil is long gone. (watering the grass on the downhill at turn 9)

I honestly have no idea what I might get for parts although I know quite a few of you guys have the 03-06 CBR's as track bikes...

Please let me know your thoughts...

[Cedric]

Please let me know your thoughts...

Hondas? A picture speaks a thousand words so....

http://www.litter.vic.gov.au/resources/images/tidyman-200-pixels.gif

:lmao:

Seriously though, you need to assess the cost benefits of parting it out vs. conversion into trackbike. Start by pricing some parts up that you'll require to fix it and decide whether it's worth the money and heartache to fix vs. the costs you'd recoup by parting it out and putting the proceeds towards an already set up trackbike.

[slow bro]

Strip all the fairings off & get Laurie judge to whether it's worth repairing. Parts are plentiful on ebay, but if the frame's not repairable your in trouble............I could use some spare wheels for wets.:lmao::lmao:.........You could make it your tracky if it's repairable (cheaper option)

[*Oggy*]

What Slowbro said. But from what I saw at the track. I would say you might find it cheaper to break it up and sell the bits on eBay . Put the cash towards a trackie. All depends on your mechanical skills ?

[zRoYz]

No one can tell anything from words, you need to at least post some pics but doesn't sound to good. If the damage is extensive & you have zero mechanical skills then your better off just selling the wreck because you will be able to buy another bike with the money you will waste fixing it especially if you want to keep riding it on the road. I can see everybody saying track bike but I'm thinking it was your road bike & you would like to still ride on the road so plowing money into making it a track bike isn't going to get you back on the road.

[Mr.Ed]

I'd say sell the bits and buy a track bike (if that's what you're after). I did this exercise not long ago and even picking up a cheap bike in good condition from the auctions was still a bad idea compared to buying a track bike someone else had already built. I know you wont have to purchase the bike but realistically speaking, how much do you think you can get for it as is right now??
If you want the same bike (600RR 05/06) you can find them track ready for about 5.5 to 7.5K depending on mods and grip to reality of the seller. If you can sell your wheels/forks and engine (if they're salvageable of course) you're half way there already. Fixing the frame might not be too expensive if you know how to strip the bike and put it back together, otherwise it's gonna cost you I think.

[WET4URacing]

strip it and send to laurie n dave. then just rebuild it to the way you want to.

[Kris]

Agree with wetty after seeing it...

[Darke99]

I'll post some photos tonight once I strip all the fairings off and get the grass and kitty litter out of it. I am mechanically inclined so that doesn't phase me. My main concern is the frame. But I'll get some pics and see if I can talk to Laurie about it. If the frame is repairable it will be a track bike,I already own it outright so I'll save some cash and pick up another road bike in a few months. If the frame is toast, I'll part it out and offer it first dibs on parts to anyone on the forum who's interested.

[*Oggy*]

I'll post some photos tonight once I strip all the fairings off and get the grass and kitty litter out of it. I am mechanically inclined so that doesn't phase me. My main concern is the frame. But I'll get some pics and see if I can talk to Laurie about it. If the frame is repairable it will be a track bike,I already own it outright so I'll save some cash and pick up another road bike in a few months. If the frame is toast, I'll part it out and offer it first dibs on parts to anyone on the forum who's interested.

Out of interest... Did you have an oggy knob bolted to the frame mount that was ripped off ?? (I cant remember).... If you are gonna track it then put up a list of parts you need as I'm sure they are all in some RATS garages collecting dust and most here have gone through what you've done so can sympathise.

[Darke99]

There were no Oggy knobs on it, so I'm a little baffled as the how the engine tore itself out, but what's done is done... We'll see when I get into it tonight.

[Mr.Ed]

There were no Oggy knobs on it, so I'm a little baffled as the how the engine tore itself out, but what's done is done... We'll see when I get into it tonight.

That must have been one crazy crash you had there... Especially considering it was out of T9!

[WET4URacing]

That must have been one crazy crash you had there... Especially considering it was out of T9!

clarkey did the same . smashed his motor

[Darke99]

It did somersaults once it slid off the track and into the grass. That's probably the worst bit. Interesting to hear someone else did it too.

[zRoYz]

Once they start to somersault the damage becomes extensive, Clarkey bike smashed the engine because it high sided & the CBR954 is known for the weak spot on the engine case it cracked.

[Pict]

Love to see some pictures of this.

[*Oggy*]

I was surprised to see how damaged the bike was compared to how well you walked away ??? The bank account will heal so much quicker than what could of happened to you so thats the good side......

[drukenhard]

this thread is like a porno magazine




no good without pictures!

[Darke99]

Pics are coming in the next few hours. I promise... Here was the bike and I beforehand. Maybe only 2 sessions earlier.

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7466

[Foghorn]

coming in the next few hours. I promise... [/IMG]

You sound just like my wife............

[slow bro]

You sound just like my wife............

You keep advertising you short comings Foggy.:lmao::lmao:

[Foghorn]

You keep advertising you short comings Foggy.:lmao::lmao:


I don't want my dribble to take this thread off topic.

Darke99 I feel for you, and if I was in your postion I would strip it and sell the parts on ebay and look at buying a second hand completed tracky.

My short commings are many

[nutsa]

Hope the damage isnt too bad mate, like i said on the day if you are parting it out i would be interested in the forks/front brakes. Let me know if you need help with anything or need to measure/compare any parts with a '04 CBR against yours.

Cheers,
Duncan

[Darke99]

You sound just like my wife............

Bahahaha, if I deliver does that make me better???

[Foghorn]

Bahahaha, if I deliver does that make me better???

Without a doubt................I should warn you though, I have already tried the nasal delivery techinque

[Darke99]

As promised, there are a few, so apologies for the bandwidth chew....

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7479

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7473

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7475

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7476

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7469

[Darke99]

The rest of them.

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7481

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7478

Just a shot of the tire wear.

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7480

[Mr.Ed]

To be honest after what you said I was expecting much much worse... She looks very track worthy IMO. Just need to check the forks and see about that engine mount...

[Darke99]

I'll rip the faings off today and see how it goes.

[zRoYz]

She looks very track worthy IMO. Just need to check the forks and see about that engine mount...

Don't think so because if I'm not mistaken in this pic you will see the black frame bkt that is like a clamp & has a bolt & a silver hollow round sleeve. That round sleeve normally has a engine mount bolt through it & is also the bkt you use when fitting frame sliders & it should be aligned with motor so looks like your frame is stuffed as I don't think that is fixable. That means new frame which if you can't find one secondhand is a major cost item & if your not able to strip the bike yourself big money labor charge.

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7469

[Mr.Ed]

Don't think so because if I'm not mistaken in this pic you will see the black frame bkt that is like a clamp & has a bolt & a silver hollow round sleeve. That round sleeve normally has a engine mount bolt through it & is also the bkt you use when fitting frame sliders & it should be aligned with motor so looks like your frame is stuffed as I don't think that is fixable. That means new frame which if you can't find one secondhand is a major cost item & if your not able to strip the bike yourself big money labor charge.

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7469

Yep, I think you're right there! I didn't really noticed that whilst browsing through the pics at first... It does look like that bkt is out of aligment.

[Foghorn]

That means new frame which if you can't find one secondhand is a major cost item & if your not able to strip the bike yourself big money labor charge.

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7469

There are members on this forum who can strip a bike like a vulture strips a carcass, one of whom has already posted on this thread. If you reposted as wanting help, I'm certain it would be forthcoming.

[zRoYz]

So you know what that part of frame should look like:
15 is the engine bolt completely snapped off.
32 clamp bolt & 4 sleeve are the other parts you can see facing the wrong way.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6608/h03cbr600rr65.gif (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/h03cbr600rr65.gif/)

There just happens to be a frame in AUS on Ebay at the moment http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HONDA-CBR600RR-06-TELEFONICA-MOVIESTAR-MAIN-FRAME_W0QQitemZ190380816822QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_M otorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2c5394b9b6

[*Oggy*]

Yep.. my opinions were based on seeing the damage on the day... Still can't figure out what you could of hit there to do that ????

[slow bro]

Where's JPM when you need him......... You'd buy that picture of your bike going through the air.

[Darke99]

Where's JPM when you need him......... You'd buy that picture of your bike going through the air.

Hell yeah i'd buy that shot.... Might help explain what happened. Here are some of the shots of it stripped down. I have 3 issues to look at.

1) Subframe

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7486

2) Bent Frame (Creased as you can see in the next few shots)

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7485

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7484

3) Crankcase I think.

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7490

http://nswroadandtrackbikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7488

Certainly not pretty. I'm going to continue tomorrow and get all the airbox, exhaust and wiring out and see how it looks once I drain the rest of the oil and pull the clutch cover off. There are some bits inside the clutch cover so it may not be nice.

[WET4URacing]

so i dont have to read thru it all . did this have an oggy on it ????

[*Oggy*]

so i dont have to read thru it all . did this have an oggy on it ????

Nope.... Its one I didnt crash..... :bum1smiley: :lmao::lmao:..

[WET4URacing]

was waitin for u to pipe up with that.
ok did it have a nylon knob on it. (leavin that wide open for a sat nite)

[Darke99]

No, I wont come up with anything clever... or can't. :thinking:

But no crash protection on the frame.

[zRoYz]

Not good that damage is going to need a complete motor strip down, new top crank case & new frame by the looks of things. With that amount of damage to main bike components you maybe better off simply scraping it for parts.

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4609/h03cbr600rr13.gif (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/h03cbr600rr13.gif/)

[Darke99]

Not good that damage is going to need a complete motor strip down, new top crank case & new frame by the looks of things. With that amount of damage to main bike components you maybe better off simply scraping it for parts.

I saw the frame for $1100 and am currently looking at a possible motor out of the US if need be for about $650 shipped, so ignoring fairings, I'm thinking about $3000.00 in parts to get it all back together. Scrapping the engine and frame, I'm not sure I'd get enough for all the parts to buy another track bike....