St George Road Race Series 2011

[ottospunkmeister]

I have just got a letter from Jan at St George MCC saying she is looking forward to seeing me at the first race meet for 2011 on Saturday 5th February 2011. There is no mention of any other details like venue and I can't find it on the club website. That is only about 7 weeks away so does anyone else know any more about it?

[nige085]

I beleive the first round will be held at Wakefield Park the day before the PCRA round!

[WET4URacing]

so are we stayin down there for the weekend then?

[mstevo]

Jan is the secretary for both PCRA and St George you might have just received a PCRA letter in a St George labelled envelop or Jan got confused

6th Feb is the first round of the PCRA at Wakefield

Round 1....Sprint races
Wakefield Park
26-27 March

Round 2....4hr Race
Wakefield Park
6-7 August

Round 3.....Sprint races
Eastern Creek
12-13 November

[spotcom]

I got the letter too.

I phoned Jan today. Yes, Saturday 5th is definitely on, and will be at Wakefield. They'll be putting the entry information up on their website soon, and will notify people by SMS apparently.

[zoltanp1967]

Hey wettie, I just spoke with Jan, and all the racedates have been changed to the weekend after each published date. Don't worry about everyone else talking about certain dates, you just turn up on the weekend after OK?
:)
z

[mstevo]

Jan gave me the dates I posted a couple of weeks ago, now they have changed I'll have to redo my race calendar and practice dates program bugga!

[Mr Bones]

Hey wettie, I just spoke with Jan, and all the racedates have been changed to the weekend after each published date. Don't worry about everyone else talking about certain dates, you just turn up on the weekend after OK?
:)
z

:lmao: Yeah Zoltan's right. :ayyy:


Great I've already organised my whole race year's dates with work. Fuck sake!

[mstevo]

Confirmed race dates and venues for 2011 from Jan

Round 1...Sprint race
Wakefield Park
5th February

Round 2....Sprint races
Wakefield Park
26-27 March

Round 3....Endurance Races
Wakefield Park
6-7 August

Round 4.....Sprint races
Eastern Creek
12-13 November

[WET4URacing]

sweet, get some practice for the world championships

[sbutler]

Confirmed race dates and venues for 2011 from Jan

Round 1...Sprint race
Wakefield Park
5th February

Round 2....Sprint races
Wakefield Park
26-27 March

Round 3....Endurance Races
Wakefield Park
6-7 August

Round 4.....Sprint races
Eastern Creek
12-13 November

Are these the st george dates,, or PCRA dates??

[WET4URacing]

Are these the st george dates,, or PCRA dates??
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and the thread is called???????

[Linden]

Are these the st george dates,, or PCRA dates??

St George is the 5th and PCRA is the 6th I think!!! :thinking: Either way I'm gonna be falling down hills on planks of wood in the US of A that weeks!!!! :)

[mstevo]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and the thread is called???????
cheeky bugga
and yes spooopid they are St George as the thread title say's

[sbutler]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and the thread is called???????

Oh dear Im a fu@kwit!! Better get my bifocals in.

[Krack]

OK, so last night/today Toecutter and I started prepping the Gix for it's race debut.
*Lockwired caliper bolts, sump plug, oil filler cap, radiator cap.
*Drained tand flushed coolant and replaced with non glyserol racing coolant.
*Removed side stand.:(
*Engine cover protection fitted.
*Belly pan is drilled, just need to get plugs.

Am I missing anything?

[zoltanp1967]

what year is the gixer krak? retro or clubsport?

[Krack]

It's Clubsport Zoltan.

[WET4URacing]

OK, so last night/today Toecutter and I started prepping the Gix for it's race debut.


Am I missing anything?

shark fin(beattie guard)

and still as far as i know there is still nothing but water allowed in motorcycle rads on a race track(please correct me) but cars can run 20liters of coolant

[sbutler]

and still as far as i know there is still nothing but water allowed in motorcycle rads on a race track(please correct me) but cars can run 20liters of coolant

I think you'll find you are correct, all the crash's I see that involves a V8 supercar, the geen glycol is pissing out everywere.

[Marshy]

and still as far as i know there is still nothing but water allowed in motorcycle rads on a race track(please correct me) but cars can run 20liters of coolant

WOW!! I actually get to correct Wetty!! :ayyy: Well, kind of correct him, cos he's only partly wrong (D'oh!!). If that's a bit vague, let me explain...

Have a look at:
http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/6e7929353ac5e7c2ca256fe8007b498c/1BEFDC2EEFC4F224CA2577DA007C0BA9?OpenDocument

Seems very clear from the big fella that racing coolants are allowed. However, when I looked further (yes, I'm bored), I discovered that the rules are rather misleading on this point. See:
http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/27d7a3a07f9eabf6ca256b7300249e6e/02c6f83ea0360eaeca2576d8007b7005/$FILE/2010%20FX1000%20Rules.Final%20.pdf

(which, to save you looking it up, says: "No Ethylene Glycol base coolants or other products are allowed to be used in the radiator or cooling system.") It's this "or other products" section that strikes me as problematic. I took the "no other products" to mean "no other types of coolant additives", but it looks like he's suggsting that in fact it means "no ethylene glycol coolants or any other ethylene glycol products". I've just posted in the first thread above, so we'll see what Terry has to say.

However, St George follows the GCRs, which clearly state: "15.2.1.5 The only liquid coolant permitted is water". So we're kinda fucked either way....

[sbutler]

Back to the straight water I suppose..

[Krack]

Yeah. It looks like thats the safe way. Guy I spoke to who raced in St George series said he ran the non glycol coolant and would show scrutineers the bottle of what he used and was always fine. If I use water should I flush it/drain it between races/trackdays?

[dadat178]

St George race dates + PCRA and FX :

http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pdfs/calendar/2011_NSW_Road_Race_Calendar.pdf

January Island Classic Phillip Island
SAT 5th Feb St. George - R1 Honda RJays Wakefield Park
NSW Clubman Championships
SUN 6th Feb PCRA Wakefield Park
26/27th Feb World Superbikes Phillip Island
11-13th March Formula Xtreme Eastern Creek
26/27th March St. George - Honda RJays Rd.2 Wakefield Park
NSW Clubman Championships
1/2/3rd April Barry Sheene - PCRA
23/24th April 2 + 4 Meeting- Historic Bikes Eastern Creek
29/4&1st May Formula Xtreme Wakefield Park
7/8th May Mothers Day
SAT, 14th May PCRA Wakefield Park
1/2/3rd July Formula Xtreme Eastern Creek
Sat. 6th August St. George - Honda- RJays - Rd. 3 Wakefield Park
NSW Clubman Championship
Sun. 7th AugustRB Endurance 4 Hour Race Wakefield Park
SAT 27th Aug PCRA Eastern Creek
2/3/4th Sept Formula Xtreme Winton Raceway
17/18th Sept PCRA Wakefield Park
1/2nd October PCRA Broadford Vic.
15/16th Oct World GP Phillip Island
4/5/6th Nov Formula Xtreme Wakefield Park
12/13th Nov St. George - Honda Rjays Rd.4 Eastern Creek
NSW Clubman Championship
2/3rd Dec A/Asian FX S/Bike Championships Eastern Creek
9/10th Dec A/Asian FX S/Bike Championships Wakefield Park
16/17th Dec A/Asian FX S/Bike Championships Winton Raceway
2011 NSW ROAD RACE CALENDAR

[WET4URacing]

2/3rd Dec A/Asian FX S/Bike Championships Eastern Creek
9/10th Dec A/Asian FX S/Bike Championships Wakefield Park
16/17th Dec A/Asian FX S/Bike Championships Winton Raceway
2011 NSW ROAD RACE CALENDAR


what the are we goin to asia? dont get me sexcited now. stop it

[racegodr1]

2011 Asian FX-Superbike Championship (Winter Series)

Rnd 1 Eastern Creek Raceway (NSW) 11-13th March 2011

Rnd 2 Wakefield Park Raceway (NSW) 29th April - 1st May 2011

Rnd 3 Eastern Creek Raceway (NSW) 1st - 3rd July 2011

Rnd 4 Winton Raceway (VIC) 2nd - 4th September 2011

Rnd 5 Wakefield Park Raceway (NSW) 8th - 9th October 2011

Rnd 6 Eastern Creek Raceway (NSW) 5th - 6th November 2011

2011 Australian Formula Xtreme Championship (Summer Challenge) & the Australasian FX Motocross Championship (AMXC)

Winton Raceway (VIC) 16th -17th (Sat .. Day/Night) ------- AMXC Sunday 18th December 2011

[racegodr1]

Phillip Island Dec 2-4 2011 " ........ Mobile" presents the Bel Ray 6 Hour Australian Endurance Championship Bought to you by ............ride

Support classes BEARS, SIDECARS , 400's ,Retos Pre modern

Saturday 3pm will be a 2 Hour Endurance for any teams or support riders all machines welcome. Only one bike min 2 riders max 3 per team.

[Dunno]

Anyone have any info on licensing requirements for next year?

In the riders briefing at the last St George round Chris Baker definitely said riders will need an AASA to race in St George rounds for 2011.

Anyone know if this is still on the cards?

Should I fork out for the MA license or the AASA :confused:

[HYPE]

I'd wait and see Dunno... you can always re-register your MA licence (one day/annual) come the time if StG continue accepting them, otherwise sign up with AASA pre meeting

[Dunno]

I'd wait and see Dunno... you can always re-register your MA licence (one day/annual) come the time if StG continue accepting them, otherwise sign up with AASA pre meeting

Sounds like the sensible approach HYPE. Cheers :ayyy:

[Linden]

Anyone have any info on licensing requirements for next year?

In the riders briefing at the last St George round Chris Baker definitely said riders will need an AASA to race in St George rounds for 2011.

Anyone know if this is still on the cards?

Should I fork out for the MA license or the AASA :confused:

Agree with Hype but BEARS have been told that MA licenses will be accepted next year (I'm racing Vic, SA and Qld so need an MA one) Chris was saying the meeting will run with an AASA meeting licence

[Krack]

What do you have to do to get a AASA license. I"ll only be running in the St George series so I don't want to fork out for a MA license if I don't need one.

[racegodr1]

AASA are accepting MA licence's next year according to a recent press release.
Why St George are encouraging the uptake of AASA i have no idea ,its a farce really .

[dadat178]

Not sure St George are encouraging anything, but after what happened (as far as the little I know) in the run up to the 4 hour this year, they would probably have good reason to. James - any Farm dates for Jan?

[veitch-y]

I thought St George were saying they were hoping to be able to except MA next year but they said for everyone to keep an eye out for any changes if AASA weren't going allow .

[Marshy]

if AASA weren't going allow .

That's the kicker! What will Terry do? He's perfectly within his rights to NOT accept MA licences next year (although it would be the most SUCKY, MONEY-HUNGRY decision in motorsport since, oh, I dunno, they kicked poor Terry out of ASBK). Personally, I've got until 28 Feb to decide, but my gut feel is AASA licence for racing, and MA recreational licence for track day refunds......!

[Blurr]

I went with the AASA licence August last year and whilst it hasnt stopped me doing anything yet I am getting annoyed filling out MA forms at ECRD's (esp when ARDC accepts AASA) amd not getting my refund. Also the restriction that if I want to try my hand in the ASBK also I will def need an MA.

[Busta]

... I am getting annoyed filling out MA forms at ECRD's (esp when ARDC accepts AASA) amd not getting my refund.

due to a shortage of cash on hand?

[WET4URacing]

AASA dont work for PCRA as we go to broadford and NZ and a historic car meeting and if you want to go to morgan park no good and if you wanna race at VIC titles at Winton or PI. just tell me to stop. AASA dont work yet

[Blurr]

due to a shortage of cash on hand?

at the time of my MA renewal I was in Thailand and completing everything via email ( no different to normal) when St George dragged their feet alittle in the renewal process of my membership which obviously dragged out the process. When I returned I had a afxc race in one week and still no licence so I opted for the AASA so I coils complete the round. If not for that situation I would have still gone MA the same reasons Wetty has stated.

[mercho]

Well in the process of getting my track bike ready for my first year of Racing. Have registered with St George and in the process of getting my MA license, should be good fun!

[Busta]

at the time of my MA renewal I was in Thailand and completing everything via email ( no different to normal) when St George dragged their feet alittle in the renewal process of my membership which obviously dragged out the process. When I returned I had a afxc race in one week and still no licence so I opted for the AASA so I coils complete the round. If not for that situation I would have still gone MA the same reasons Wetty has stated.

sorry, should've clarified.. What I meant to ask was why you weren't getting your MA licence holders refund at ECRD's ? is it due to a shortage of cash in the rego office, or for some other reason?

[Mr.Ed]

'Cause he has the AASA license and you need a MA license in order to get your $20 back.

[Busta]

'Cause he has the AASA license and you need a MA license in order to get your $20 back.

lol strong comprehension skills I have

[WHITTNEY]

That's the kicker! What will Terry do? He's perfectly within his rights to NOT accept MA licences next year (although it would be the most SUCKY, MONEY-HUNGRY decision in motorsport since, oh, I dunno, they kicked poor Terry out of ASBK). Personally, I've got until 28 Feb to decide, but my gut feel is AASA licence for racing, and MA recreational licence for track day refunds......!well if its about sucky -money-hungry u can count on terry doing it !

[WET4URacing]

well if its about sucky -money-hungry u can count on terry doing it !
thort you were his best mate , workin 4 him , ridin at his events etc

[MOTOBIKES ACCESSORIES]

So what licence do you need?

This is what it says on the entry form,
2. JURISDICTION: The above meeting has been authorised by Australian Auto-Sport Alliance Pty.
Ltd (AASA) who have issued the Permit No. AASA050211/STG172 and is open to holders of current AASA
Motorcycle Competition Licences, or an equivalent standard AASA approved sanctioning body Motorcycle
Racing Licence. NO ONE EVENT LICENCES will be allowed for at this meeting.
2.1 Clubs Invited: BEARs, BWP, & PCRA.
2.2 The Meeting will be held in accordance with the current AASA National Competition Rules including the
Motorcycle NCS Addendum, these Supplementary Regulations, the Bylaws and any Final Instructions. By
entering this meeting all parties agree to comply with these rules, regulations, by-laws and instructions.

So is MA equivilent?

[WHITTNEY]

thort you were his best mate , workin 4 him , ridin at his events etc

hey pgm like many others i got burnt !

[mstevo]

So what licence do you need?

This is what it says on the entry form,
2. JURISDICTION: The above meeting has been authorised by Australian Auto-Sport Alliance Pty.
Ltd (AASA) who have issued the Permit No. AASA050211/STG172 and is open to holders of current AASA
Motorcycle Competition Licences, or an equivalent standard AASA approved sanctioning body Motorcycle
Racing Licence. NO ONE EVENT LICENCES will be allowed for at this meeting.
2.1 Clubs Invited: BEARs, BWP, & PCRA.
2.2 The Meeting will be held in accordance with the current AASA National Competition Rules including the
Motorcycle NCS Addendum, these Supplementary Regulations, the Bylaws and any Final Instructions. By
entering this meeting all parties agree to comply with these rules, regulations, by-laws and instructions.

So is MA equivilent?

this means an MA licence as they are the original, AASA are the new kids on the block

[WET4URacing]

hey pgm like many others i got burnt !
ouch. remember he is a kiwi

[SLAC]

Just get a AASA and get a 1 day MA lic... That is my plan and i am stickin to it.... I think, BSFOS may fark that

[WET4URacing]

just buy the MA licence. far easier. stick it on someones shitter cleanout bill