Opinions about helmets...

[pan]

Hi. I've had the Shark for the last 2 years and I love it,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pansta/Hayabusa/mohawk.jpg


...but the time has come to buy a new one. I like the newer Shark, but thought I'd check out other helmets before I head off to see Fullhouse to buy one... :ayyy:

Any thoughts on these two specimens?
has anyone had them, or can anyone comment on whether they are noisy, comfy, etc...

[Kat00]

Can`t help ya mate with either of those 2.
I usually buy AGV for no other reason other than AGV fit my buff head the best.

[dungbeetle]

yeh i cant help ya on eithe rof them either, but ill be watching this thread closely. i had a AXO for 5 years til i crashed at ec last year...so it was time to buy a new one....i figured 5 years of technology would make helmets heaps better....so i got a VEMAR cheap thru a mate...well its actually noisier and heavier than my old axo so im not sure what happened to technology!!:(
i do need to buy a new one eventually before i go deaf from the wind noise!!!:O

[Sprinter]

Ive got a literally brand new HJC Phoenix for sale if you are interested. Size is largish medium. I wore it for an hour and then realised I dont have a big enough head for it. I havent got around to trying to sell it cause I want it to fit but its not going to shrink anytime soon:(

It has a Fog City HyperOptik fitted as well which was $60 alone. $300 plus postage.

[shane]

I'll ask the other Personal Trainer today when i see hom how his KBC one is. He's had that one for a while now, he should know some pros and cons!

[zRoYz]

the great helmet debate :lmao: :lmao:

lets see maybe I can guess the direction this thread will go;
questions
are the cheap helmets as good as the costly ones?
#yes & no which isn't an answer but the truth, so long as they meet the Australian design standard they should do there job if a $100 helmet of a $1000 helmet. The material, comfort, design are what the extra money is for.

whats the silver sticker on the side for?
#that means it has passed Australian design standard & legal to use in Australia & should protect your head to that standard, there are higher standards which is also why some helmets cost more.

what fits my head & what should I buy?
#ffs does your mother still buy your underpants & socks, you buy what you can afford that best fits your head, its such a simple answer to a complex question. You may be able to buy the latest & greatest like a X-11 etc but when you try it on, the fit feels funny. Then you try a helmet that is 1/2 the cost but fits so well it sucks your face & fells part of you. Which one do you buy?? the one that fits best because a good fitting helmet is the most important thing above design & looks.

what is a quiet helmet?
#the only quiet helmet on the market is one that sits in your cupboard & doesn't get used, there is an invention in the modern world called ear plugs, you stick them in your ears for things to be quiet. If you think there is a quiet helmet on the market for hwy speed your dreaming again & your not really reading this go back to racing rossi.

hope that helps :lmao:

[Irena]

the great helmet debate :lmao: :lmao:

lets see maybe I can guess the direction this thread will go;
questions
are the cheap helmets as good as the costly ones?
#yes & no which isn't an answer but the truth, so long as they meet the Australian design standard they should do there job if a $100 helmet of a $1000 helmet. The material, comfort, design are what the extra money is for.

whats the silver sticker on the side for?
#that means it has passed Australian design standard & legal to use in Australia & should protect your head to that standard, there are higher standards which is also why some helmets cost more.

what fits my head & what should I buy?
#ffs does your mother still buy your underpants & socks, you buy what you can afford that best fits your head, its such a simple answer to a complex question. You may be able to buy the latest & greatest like a X-11 etc but when you try it on, the fit feels funny. Then you try a helmet that is 1/2 the cost but fits so well it sucks your face & fells part of you. Which one do you buy?? the one that fits best because a good fitting helmet is the most important thing above design & looks.

what is a quiet helmet?
#the only quiet helmet on the market is one that sits in your cupboard & doesn't get used, there is an invention in the modern world called ear plugs, you stick them in your ears for things to be quiet. If you think there is a quiet helmet on the market for hwy speed your dreaming again & your not really reading this go back to racing rossi.

hope that helps :lmao:

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[zRoYz]

opps forgot one :thinking:

how do I know if my head meets the Australian design standard?
#you have proved your head isn't worth saving by asking this question so your able to use a ice cream container with elastic strap or ride a harley.

:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[fullhouse]

LMAO, go the one that fits your head the best mate, imo the arais a much better construction, fit and a few more trick features

[fullhouse]

did you go to parra or city for those shots pan???

[seraph]

I gots me that model arai, or the model up I think. I like arai's they fit my head good. dunno whether this is common for all helmets, but my last arai wore in really quickly, but I was wearing it everyday, when I got my dreadies it wore in even better, made me wonder how long the liner would last. Longest I've owned an arai is 18months of daily use, liner was still good but I doubt it would last 5 years. -J.

[dungbeetle]

well ive only owned 2 helmets, and one was much quieter than the other!!! guess theres sumthin wrong with me!!
but your right roy, they were both fukken noisy!! just one was noisier!!

[lilninja]

I have an axo Carbon fibre construction helmet, It is the lightest helmet on the market. it is the second one ive had as the first sacraficed itself saving my noggin! only problem is they are unavailable in australia now!for some reason Axo pulled it off Australian shelves! got the last one in Australia I did!

[Ian]

I used to wear AGV but found them too noisy/too buffered to ride in.
I have swapped to Shark and find them fantastic light, quiet and great airflow.

I always wear Alpine Earplugs - a bit pricy at 50buck, but fit my rude shaped ears better than the squishey ones.

[trumpst]

I've a Nolan - seems pretty good- always wear earplugs - sometimes noisier that othertimes for some strange reason! Anyway, seems comfortable enough- went for comfort before price, but good a good price anyway.

[Turtle]

PanMan, i've got 2 Suomys at the moment, i had an AGV and have had Shoei and Axo. The Suomys are super light and cofortable, with the liner being able to be removed for cleaning in about 10 seconds. I like helmets you can remove the liner so you can keep them clean. Try one on and see for yourself. Its gonna come down to what fits ya noggin the best. :ayyy:

[jasonbw]

Good to see so many posts here about wearing earplugs... I started going deaf after riding a few years got earplugs and its stopped it from getting worse.. good on you all!

P.s. BMW helmets are ultra quiet and light, but when tucked it doesnt give very good track visibility - the crown creeps down a little too much.. probably my head fitment but its something to try when looking at buying a new helmet.

[fullhouse]

i need to wear earplugs

[BART]

Hey Fully

Many thanks for fixing me up with my new lid the other day.

I'm now the new owner of a Shoei TZR. I can always walk around with it on my head until my bike is fixed.

[fullhouse]

lmfao np matee, anything for a rat

[kellz]

i hate my hjc its heavy its noisy and it isnt comfy...


will be getting a shoei next as i love their fit and designs...
i go more for comfort but last time i just went for cheap and well i got what i paid for.. i have learnt that it needs to fit well and be comfy as well as be a good price...

[MATTK6]

when i bought the shark, i was gonna buy the shoei diabolic 1, but when i tried it on, it just felt wrong, it felt like my chin was sticking out of the bottom, so i went for the shark, but i've since tried on the diabolic 3 and love how it fits:thinking: so when and if i've ever got a spare $900 laying around i'll be going for that, aswell as i love the design on it as it suits me down to a T:lmao:

[kellz]

yes yes it does matt...
i want the shoei with teh pinka nd purple flowers on it.. its so girlie and cute lol...

im getting scared im becoming less of a tom boy lol

[pan]

did you go to parra or city for those shots pan???

City

Are you working on Thursday? I'll probably come by in the arvo...

[striker]

I like the Shoei XR-1000. When I bought my first one I tried shitloads of different types of helmets and went to heaps of different shops to explore a wider range and just kept coming back to the same one. At the time it was more than I wanted to pay, but it's worth paying more in the end for the right fitting helmet.

I also have a second cheaper HJC helmet for the track. The rationale is this:

I don't have to pay $800 replacement each time it gets damaged in a crash (replacement is about 250).

It doesn't matter if it's a bit less comfortable because it's only on for 20 minutes at a time.

I'm less likely to hit a tree, or car or any of the things you might hit on the road, so as long as it meets the AUS standard, I figure I can compromise on quality.

[holdontight]

I got a new Nolan it just felt right and not a bad price.
Verry quiet to i could hardly hear the police sirens when thay where chasing me.:lmao:

[MATTK6]

so that's how you got away with the failing to pull over charge?:lmao:

[dilbee]

My old helmet is a schwantz and ive even had him sign it on the back for me saying to Dylan Kevin Swantz. :) That was a arai and its been a great helmet but the linning has worn as its not a snug fit anymore. :( So now ive got a shoe RF1000 which is a US helmet which is a limited one that matches my bike colour scheme. I think the RF1000 is called something else here. But that a top helmet and comfy and quiet.
Arai's have alway been a cofy lid and fit well. id still go an arai but shoe have matching lids for the gixxers now but you can only get them from the US. :(
One other point is these helmets only have the dot sticker which is the US standard sticker.

[fullhouse]

yeah but we @ downtown livo close at 6.30

[sharpe1]

I like Shoei and Arai, comfy and fit my head well. I wanted an AGV Gobert a few years ago but they don't fit my head well. I also bought an HJC but after 6 months tossed it because I just didn't like it.

[DanR1]

When i got my first Arai, it was a beautiful moment and i haven't looked back since. paying for my RX7RR was excruciating at the time, but even if it just saves a nasty concussion (or worse), it'll be well worth it. Needless to say the fit and quality can't be matched (for my head anyway) I tried on an X-11 Shoei, but it didn't fit too well across the forehead..
I've tried on heaps of my mates helmets, but none of them feel as reassuring as the Arai - completely psycological, but still...

I often change visors 3 times a day, so the super quick changing system is great.

I had to sacrifice a few nights out so i could justify it, but really, what price do you put on your head??

[Birdman45]

$2 head, $2 helmet or so the saying goes. Arai all the way I rekon. Shoei are great also, but without the podson the side, watch any race on telly and when a heap of people crash, the Shoei (and other guys) get up with no visor coz it was ripped off. The Arai's still have them on coz of the pods and so have better face protection. Forget the "pods give noise" bullshit too, that is total crap. Shrug your shoulders while you ride and hear the noise vanish. That is where most of the noise is from.

Remember with your helmets, you should when buying a new one, have it fit as tight as it can be without hurting your head. Forget how hard it is to put on, it will get easier athe more times you do it and it "opens up" , but I have lost sales on that many helmets coz the guy is saying "nah too small, I need a large" when they do NOT. They put my helmet on , a medium, but worn and it fits great, but can't make the connection between wearing it a while and how it feels right now. As long as you can get your head in (and try hard, it sometimes is very hard initially to get in, but just coz it is, don't mean it's too small) and you don't have a headache in a few minutes, your cheeks should be pushed together and it should be pretty tight. If it doesn't hurt anywhere, it's your size. Hope this helps.

[jasonbw]

Got any $2 helmets for sale? That should suit me :)
Great to see your postings here mate, its better than 1000rr.net hey :)

Any chance of getting a certain motogp god that you know to sign up, we could give him our hints and tips :) :)

[Marcus]

Weight is a big factor for me, well preference. Which strikes out AGV, they seem the heaviest.

I cant chew chewing gum in my current helmet

[Captain]

Who sells these?

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/casco-integrale-bell-m5x-le-mans/big_bell_m5x_lemans_00.jpg

[triumph]

a bell helmets still going . i remember having one years ago .

[Johnny]

Holy thread dig Bat, I mean Captain. :)

[Foghorn]

Who sells these?

http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/casco-integrale-bell-m5x-le-mans/big_bell_m5x_lemans_00.jpg

Hey Julian, hope this helps
http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Categories.bok?category=Bell+Star+Helmet+|+Bell+St ar+Helmets+|+Bell+Helmet

[ottospunkmeister]

Holy thread dig Bat, I mean Captain. :)

2 and a half years gap. Must've taken some digging:)

[Captain]

I didn't want to start a new thread, I went to 'search', put in 'helmets' and there it was!

[SIX36]

My AGV Ti techs are the lightest helmets I've found and the GP techs are lighter again...
I wish some sold the Premier lids in Oz

[Captain]

Hey Julian, hope this helps
http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Categories.bok?category=Bell+Star+Helmet+|+Bell+St ar+Helmets+|+Bell+Helmet
Kinda .... nah, not really, because I need a local supplier (AS sticker and all that)

[LOAFIE]

Just don't buy Shoei they are shit, depends on the use commuter helmet or touring as you can buy a well fitting cheap helmet or a expensive quality helmet that is comortable for the long rides
My next will be a Arai

[Mr.Ed]

My AGV Ti techs are the lightest helmets I've found and the GP techs are lighter again...
I wish some sold the Premier lids in Oz
I have a Ti Tech, quite light... but the RSR2 in medium (both helmets are medium) is lighter! If it isn't it certainly feels and looks like it (definitely smaller)!!
And the GP tech is supposed to be heavier than both but it does have better features. At least that's what I read on the interwebs.:confused1:

[Edge]

AGV are the only helmet that fit me properly!! I have the GP, and it is quite noisy and ALL the extra vent doo-dads have broken off rendering them useless. Not worth the exra money IMO. Poor quality fittings/plastics. Hopefully the shell is better......But it fits gooood.lol

[Bigdog]

Just don't buy Shoei they are shit, depends on the use commuter helmet or touring as you can buy a well fitting cheap helmet or a expensive quality helmet that is comortable for the long rides
My next will be a Arai

Why exactly are they shit? I have had two XR1000's and they are very comfortable and fit my head properly. I crashed in one too and it did it's job.

[Captain]

+1, I've never had a Shoei, but I've ridden with plenty of others that do, and they like them. The only thing I have noticed about them is that they seem to fog up a little more, maybe it's a ventilation issue?

[Foghorn]

Kinda .... nah, not really, because I need a local supplier (AS sticker and all that)

If it is for track use do you need the sticker?? I know CB checks the helmets but ECRD and Champions don't

I haven't seen Bell locally for around 20 years

My current lid and the best I have had - my OGK FF4 fits like a glove, great ventilation and the visor release is a one button push unit.

How many helmet manufactures advertise a quick release system, where nothing could be further from the truth. It is also quiet which I love.

I will either get the latest model the FF5 or I might try Arai

[LOAFIE]

Why exactly are they shit? I have had two XR1000's and they are very comfortable and fit my head properly. I crashed in one too and it did it's job.

I've found wind noise to be a common complaint with Shoei which also leads on that replacement visors are poor fitting , this I admit that Shoeis may not suit my fat head but this just my opinion

[Azza]

If it is for track use do you need the sticker?? I know CB checks the helmets but ECRD and Champions don't

I haven't seen Bell locally for around 20 years

My current lid and the best I have had - my OGK FF4 fits like a glove, great ventilation and the visor release is a one button push unit.

How many helmet manufactures advertise a quick release system, where nothing could be further from the truth. It is also quiet which I love.

I will either get the latest model the FF5 or I might try Arai

If they question you. I would throw this at them.... As long as they come under MA or FIM. this is the official rule.. To me this means it can carry any of the following....

Taken directly from MA manual of motorcycle sport

APPENDIX 1 HELMET APPROVALS & FITTING
29.1.1 APPROVAL LABELS FOR HELMETS
29.1.1.1 Helmets must carry one of the following approval labels, as listed in Rule 01.70 of the FIM Technical
Rules.
a) Europe ECE 22 – 04, ECE 22 - 05
b) Great Britain BS 6658 Grade A & B (All disciplines)
c) USA DOT Federal Standard No 218 / SNELL M95, M2000, M2005
d) Japan JIS T 8133:2000, or
Australia Standards Association of Australia AS1698

[zenodamper]

Arai (my 2p)

[Kimbo]

Loved my Shoeis over the years, comfortable , quiet, easy to replace visor. Saved my head when I came of at EC. Knocked out from landing on the back of my head. Only damage was the outside coating. Have an older one for on the road and a KBC race for the track. KBC noisier than the shoei , but double bubble screen directs the air up into it. my 2C not P

[phillmac]

Replaced my crash tested TZR with a XR1000 to get the same top fit and value. I got KOd and no bruising. Seen a few bad bruises from blokes getting KOd in cheap lids

[Marshy]

Arai all the way :D

[dilbee]

my shoei xr1000 did its job twice.:ayyy: 2nd one was doing a 360 flip and landing on my head. Fracture at base of skull but that was due to the body weight coming down on head. Helmet came up great and and not really that much damage comaped to me.

[Captain]

If they question you. I would throw this at them.... As long as they come under MA or FIM. this is the official rule.. To me this means it can carry any of the following....

Taken directly from MA manual of motorcycle sport

APPENDIX 1 HELMET APPROVALS & FITTING
29.1.1 APPROVAL LABELS FOR HELMETS
29.1.1.1 Helmets must carry one of the following approval labels, as listed in Rule 01.70 of the FIM Technical
Rules.
a) Europe ECE 22 – 04, ECE 22 - 05
b) Great Britain BS 6658 Grade A & B (All disciplines)
c) USA DOT Federal Standard No 218 / SNELL M95, M2000, M2005
d) Japan JIS T 8133:2000, or
Australia Standards Association of Australia AS1698


According to the ECRD website, you need a •Full face helmet that meets Australian AS1698 standards
That seems pretty clear, what MA says is probably irrelevant if we're being particular. I'm sure MA allows passing closer that 2m too, yet ECRD do not, and it's their ride days, they can make their own rules.

[Foghorn]

According to the ECRD website, you need a •Full face helmet that meets Australian AS1698 standards
That seems pretty clear, what MA says is probably irrelevant if we're being particular. I'm sure MA allows passing closer that 2m too, yet ECRD do not, and it's their ride days, they can make their own rules.

Question: Has anyone had a non AS helmet rejected during a ECRD

[Johnny]

Question: Has anyone had a non AS helmet rejected during a ECRD

Yet to see them check for it actually.. :confused:


btw


Feed the snell dot beats AS1968 to your insurance company, see how far you get :lmao: means shit, rules are rules, and having a helmet which does not comply with AS standards,t hen your up for not wearing any helmet at all. Same goes for usage on track if they want to be anal about it ( yes we know, signing liabilty away is the first thing you do, but and there is a but ) :)

[Foghorn]

Yet to see them check for it actually..

Mate, I wasn't talking about your mental state

[Johnny]

Mate, I wasn't talking about your mental state edit.. joke removed, even though I wasnt joking :)



again they dont check/scrutineer helmets at the creek.

[Mr.Ed]

2nd one was doing a 360 flip and landing on my head.
Were you riding upside down?:confused1:

[Foghorn]

again they dont check/scrutineer helmets at the creek.

Mate your always a good sport...........

So if they don't check in theory you could wear an import, can't remember if they check at CSS

[Johnny]

In theory, yes, wether you should or shouldnt, thats another question :)

likewise with css I'd think.

[Foghorn]

Let's forget about crashing on the road, no AS no coverage.

Get stopped, helmet checked no AS..............on the spot fine !!

[Johnny]

Re it not being checked at ec for the time being, I think that may be one of the many changes coming to the creek this following year.. There is a few changes coming, but no one to thank but yourselves :p