Running in a new bike?

[quickchick]

Just wondering what people's opinions are as to running in a new bike.

I've heard various opinions from treating it like a newborn to ride it as you usually would to going nuts straight out of the dealer's driveway.

The guy on the new ZX6 at OP last week obviously had no worries about going hard. His bike only had 100km or so on it. :headshake: :confused1:

So what's your opinion?

[Kat00]

Here we go again.

[MATTK6]

i've always ridden mine like i stole it and the engine is still going strong, but yeah, this is a majour debate:ayyy:

[Bigdog]

I tend to follow the owners manual but usually rev it a bit more than they recommend.

[Fingers]

i know a car motor isn't quite the same!! but i've had mates with rebuilt engines and the ones who pussy foot it tend to had their motor back in the shop not even six months later... and the ones who pedal to the metal have had no troubles other than natural wear and tear!!!!

[Johnny]

Here we go again.

haha, topic of discussion on evey forum atleast 387 times, a month :lmao:

treat a bike like a baby, it will act like a baby, mine was ridden in hard as I dont think much of glazed pistons and bores as doing by the numptie method will do, so I chose to take what Zroyz has said on another forum as my way of running it in, as it made the most sence to me, and Im glad I did.

But here, heres an intersting read. Method along with evidence and facts given to support it, its up to you to make your own mind up on this and how you do is solely up to you.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

[Wiccad]

Baby the bike, get a baby strength motor. First 1000km just ride it normally but not too agresively as this is when 99% of the metal settling occurs (turns into shavings in your oil filter, this is normal for a new engine), then after the 1000km service when the bike is on normal oil (run in oil is thinner than normal oil.) give it the berries on a good ride that has you rowing through the gearbox so you don't glaze the bores over. A trackday is perfect for this but not allways practical. So choose your favourite twisty road and go thorough a couple of tanks of fuel.

That said, i've never owned a brand new bike, but have owned rebuilt engines and treated them this way with no problems and power to boot. My previous bike (2000 gsxr750) had a rebuilt engine and got this treatment, was written off at 60,000km in an acco but still out ran 2005 R1's down the straight at oran park. (disclaimer, I can't comment on how much of a pussy the rider was of the R1 with the throttle on the exit of turn 12, but he wasnt happy that a bike 5 years older than his was quiker with 55k km on it:lmao: )

[Fingers]

thats a top page Gixar.. i like it!! Ride/Drive it like you stole it!!!

[holdontight]

yep ya gunna get 100 dif answers here.
I asked the same q one and the only answer that had any teck to it whent somthing like this.
Modern engines r built to a much better standed & the meterials there made out of r a whole lot better. the safty margins that where built into older engines r no longer used as engine desiners have a grater understanding of how different metals work under load & heat conditions. The computer age has made it pos for these engines to do thousands of ks without even being built and any problems fix before thr first one is built (probs very rearley arise). there r only two things that need "running in"
1 Your rings & as these use the presher of combustion to do the job thay will need to have some load. You dont have a lot of time to "bed rings in a modern bike engine as bore finnish is to a very high standed and the cuting action of your bore will be lost in ouround 3-400ks in road use.
2 Gear box the mating surfasses will need to be bedded into each other.
Both of these can be bedded in at the same time in the same way.
Using 4th gear 3/4 thtle load the engine to around 6-7thou and than coast back down to around 3-4thou DO NOT USE THE BRAKES TO SLOW DOWN.
Do this 2-3 times and then more thlte more rpm up to around 9-10thou.
Same thing do this 2-3 times.
For the next 3-4 runs use the same rpm 9-10thou but full thtle.
Always keep a look at your engine temp this dosn' have to be done one after the other so if it stars geting hot whit for it to cool down.
For the first few runs it may blow some oil smoke out the pipes on the off thtle part of the run but this is only becous the rings r not yet bedded in and it can pull some oil past the rings. This smoke will clear.
Than just flog the shit out of it job done:ayyy:

[mike-s]

Using 4th gear 3/4 thtle load the engine to around 6-7thou and than coast back down to around 3-4thou DO NOT USE THE BRAKES TO SLOW DOWN.
Do this 2-3 times and then more thlte more rpm up to around 9-10thou.
Same thing do this 2-3 times.
For the next 3-4 runs use the same rpm 9-10thou but full thtle.

If i had a rebuild on my current bike (thankfully not needed, *touchwood*) i can see a slight problem with following your advice verbatim, something to do with doing around 180km/h and any potential po-po's in the area busting me to walking (again), only this time for a LOT longer.

[jasonbw]

If i had a rebuild on my current bike (thankfully not needed, *touchwood*) i can see a slight problem with following your advice verbatim, something to do with doing around 180km/h and any potential po-po's in the area busting me to walking (again), only this time for a LOT longer.

one word sir...

DYNO..

[FIREBLADE]

yeah on the dyno as jason said or ride it like you stole it like i did. hasn't missed a beat..

[holdontight]

If i had a rebuild on my current bike (thankfully not needed, *touchwood*) i can see a slight problem with following your advice verbatim, something to do with doing around 180km/h and any potential po-po's in the area busting me to walking (again), only this time for a LOT longer.
Yep there's always that risk but its this or a dyno.

[Marcus]

Personally I wouldnt baby it, but I wouldnt flog it either.

[dilbee]

ive ridden mine in like it ride it any day. Havn't flogged it but rode it hard sometimes. Hasn't missed a beat for me. My dyno is 137Hp if i can recall. But thats with race system Yoshi too.

[quickchick]

Thanks for that folks. Majority says: Don't hold back!!

[MATTK6]

nah, i reckon ride it from day one like you will ride it for the rest of it's life:Ayyy:

[dilbee]

besides thats what a warranty is for. If its gonna break let it happen now or soonish.

[ihampster]

ride it however you want & have fun on it

[Birdman]

no mercy, run her in hard and fast

[Birdman45]

Every time I see your posts I think "I can't remember writing that. " Haha Sending you a myspace request once they let me log in, probs apparently.

The REAL Birdy. LOL

[gsx10]

Hey Quickchick,

I reckon you ask Damo (kwakas) how he run in his new GSX-R1000 when he got it in 2003. From memory, it was a pickup new bike Thursday, and Eastern Creek track day Saturday. It seems to work ok still!

Luke

[Peregrine]

It depends on how long you want to hold onto your bike for. If you're only going to have it for a year or two - flog the living daylights out of it... it won't be your problem hahaha

(I know it's jack...) :P

[ST Kurt]

I recon you should......

[ST Kurt]

Whatever you do, don't treat her like a princess and put her on a pedistool. She must learn to respect you and do what you tell her to do!

[ST Kurt]

oops, wrong forum :)

[ihampster]

give it too her hard .... if you cannot do this i can:eyecrazy: :beatdeadhorse:

[Motovated]

If you plan on caring for it until it's 18 - then treat it like a baby.
Otherwise ride it like it's built to be ridden I reckon...
A new bike has 2 year warranty - if you can destroy the motor in that time you will be given a new one. If it survives (and it likely will) starting planning to trade up :ayyy:
To be a little more serious: if it's new I wouldn't thrash it all the time the first 1000kms (but would redline a few times - some say this 'seats' the rings) then drop the oil (with the metal shavings) replace with synthetic and Cane the bitch :mod_smilie_rockwoot

[Birdman45]

They are pre "runin" from the factory, they are redlined before they leave to make sure there isn't a problem......... you only need to seat the rings which is done via that mototune website or close to doing that if you haven't got a dyno...........I hafd a 020 that I ran in like that, raced it for 2 years, rode on the road inbetween and sold, that is still going strong today with just regular servicing. Don't worry about it.

[Marcus]

I thought they were just started and run for a short while to do a quick diagnostic check

[Birdman45]

I have heard they are redlined to make sure they don't go bang. I could be wrong.

[Kat00]

If it goes bang its best to go bang in the first 1000K`s than the last 1000K`s;)

[quickchick]

Well folks I went for a nice run in ride doing the putty road on sunday. I just rode like normal (I am female) and didnt' take it past 10 grand.

Far out I LOVE my new baby!!!

[MATTK6]

good stuff quicky:ayyy: so when we gonna see that beauty at the track?:lmao:

[Turtle]

They are pre "runin" from the factory, they are redlined before they leave to make sure there isn't a problem......... you only need to seat the rings which is done via that mototune website or close to doing that if you haven't got a dyno...........I hafd a 020 that I ran in like that, raced it for 2 years, rode on the road inbetween and sold, that is still going strong today with just regular servicing. Don't worry about it.

So Birdy it only takes 20 mins to run in a new bike on the Dyno ??? Is that right ??

[Birdman]

most new sport bikes with alloy bore and pistons do more damage on startup than taking them to redline

[rev-tech]

that run in info was a good read.

just wondering, if there's any information about run in regarding 2-strokes? same principles apply?