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RIPPERTON
15-11-2010, 05:12 PM
Hey Rip - have you seen this one?
seen it? Ive ridden it
Its Jon Eggenhuizen's VFR, Hes a motor rewinder from Newcastle
it weighes 280kg but it goes like a train. serious acceleration.
got lead acids right now but a couple of grand worth of lithium would make this perform twice as hard.
Schtevo
15-11-2010, 05:17 PM
Cool, just stumbled on it on EBay and thought you might be interested, the way his motor is installed looks similar to yours from what I can see.
Looks impressive but that much weight and such small range must be limiting
seen it? Ive ridden it
Its Jon Eggenhuizen's VFR, Hes a motor rewinder from Newcastle
it weighes 280kg but it goes like a train. serious acceleration.
got lead acids right now but a couple of grand worth of lithium would make this perform twice as hard.
RIPPERTON
08-01-2011, 06:56 AM
Machined swingarm for small rock clearance
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/SAMACHINE2.jpg?t=1294433545
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/SAMACHINE1.jpg?t=1294433545
LiPo battery box. Very difficult to design
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/32S12PWALLED.jpg?t=1294433545
Some dummy profiles Ive racked up over the past 5 months
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00003-2.jpg?t=1294433545
voltage monitors sit on top, they have peizo alarm for low voltage
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/32S12PWALLED-1.jpg?t=1294433545
RIPPERTON
08-01-2011, 06:59 AM
Penske 8783 remote goes piggy back.....Oh noes I hope ride days arnt Halal man
got shock from the states new for $800 shipped
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00011-1.jpg?t=1294433545
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00009.jpg?t=1294433545
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00010-1.jpg?t=1294433545
Krack
09-01-2011, 08:52 AM
Where'd the Penske come from Rip. Private or company.
RIPPERTON
09-01-2011, 02:07 PM
Where'd the Penske come from Rip. Private or company.
Ex bike shop company Eidolon
went under in financial crisis and had to sell off.
Krack
09-01-2011, 04:58 PM
Cheers mate.
RIPPERTON
06-03-2011, 09:34 AM
Got the battery in the R1 last night and went for a ride this morning without an initial charge and
with the controller set to max output. battery voltage stood at 125v before charge
anything past 1/8 throttle and the t belt jumps so will be going back to chain drive with a similar sized
rear sprocket geared for 240kmh. still got it up to 105kmh on quarter throttle.
took 5 months to design the battery and 6 weeks to make it but it turned out well.
it came out at 48 kilo so the whole bike should be around 140kg with cables ect.
heres a shot of battery box without cells
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00046.jpg?t=1299368049
Schtevo
06-03-2011, 10:17 AM
Wow Rip - it's getting close now. When do you think it will have its' maiden track day?
Very nice look forward to more pics
RIPPERTON
07-03-2011, 02:36 PM
Heres a shot of a land speed record bike currently being built by a friend of mine.
Its got 4 of the motors Im using in the R1. Its a Hyosung or some shit but its going for 200mph
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Photo0190.jpg?t=1299472427
triumph
07-03-2011, 03:11 PM
doesnt look too bad . what does it weigh .
RIPPERTON
08-03-2011, 03:25 PM
over 200kg but for land speed, weight is a good thing.
So I didnt muck around blowing up my first electric motor.
After putting the chain back on I set the controller up to max amps...bad idea.
this put so much heat into the windings and rotor I think I stuffed it.
found out electric motors are very easy to pull apart, just need a basic automotive puller and a
custom flange plate. Rotor is only 7mm thick, thats a little skimpy for this app.
the Neo magnets probably also got damaged in the heat wave.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00059-1.jpg?t=1299561492
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00058-1.jpg?t=1299561492
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00061.jpg?t=1299561492
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00062.jpg?t=1299561492
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00064.jpg?t=1299561492
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00060.jpg?t=1299561492
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00063.jpg?t=1299561492
RIPPERTON
11-03-2011, 06:14 AM
Turns out the windings are ok but the Neodimium magnets got overheated and lost power.
have figured out I can make a new bigger rotor with thicker magnets and inbuilt fan blades.
The second motor has gone back into the bike with some added cooling air inlet holes drilled into the
drive side casing and a modded fan (alloy disc).
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00066.jpg?t=1299788038
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00067.jpg?t=1299788038
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00068.jpg?t=1299788038
RIPPERTON
12-03-2011, 07:19 AM
Heres some final shots, the bike is ride ready and might just show up at the Creek on Sunday for inspection
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/FINAL1.jpg?t=1299877424
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/FINAL2.jpg?t=1299877424
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/FINAL3.jpg?t=1299877424
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/FINAL4.jpg?t=1299877424
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/FINAL5.jpg?t=1299877424
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/FINAL6.jpg?t=1299877424
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/FINAL7.jpg?t=1299877424
wade193
12-03-2011, 07:44 AM
Very impressed.
Great work Rip and good luck when you make your debut :ayyy:
phillmac
12-03-2011, 11:30 AM
Motorcycle News artical. Swigz elec Superbike makes history at Auto club speedway in California. Chips Yates grabs 2 podium spots and a fastest lap. Top speed 254kph. Was racing in WERA heavyweight twins superstock class ?
Dave75
12-03-2011, 02:12 PM
Must be strange riding a bike with no engine noise
Baddie
12-03-2011, 02:39 PM
Must be strange riding a bike with no engine noise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q_guB2tdPA
RIPPERTON
13-03-2011, 04:45 PM
Must be strange riding a bike with no engine noise
Your kidding !
this thing makes an ear piercing hum at around 40kmh and at 60kmh it goes a bit quieter just the sound smooths out and its the sweetest smoothest noise
youve ever heard on a bike. Jetsons hum FTW
Ive been playing around with the timing advance and seems the more I advance it the better it goes.
It was really wrong when I first put the motor in and wasnt pulling at all yet still getting real hot...well 80C at the cores.
Now its pulling hard with the controller set at 400 amps, still gets hot but 80 is sposed to be normal for a AC motor.
damn this thing is FUN
Dave75
14-03-2011, 06:59 AM
Thanks rip
I was starting to think that it might sound like a unbalanced washing machine but I know that you would never let that happen !!!!!
Wattie
14-03-2011, 08:27 AM
Won't you need a rear brake for scrutineering?
Chuck a "tank" cover on it and without a second glance, no body would ever pick it.
What happened to the belt drive??
RIPPERTON
15-03-2011, 10:06 AM
Won't you need a rear brake for scrutineering?
Chuck a "tank" cover on it and without a second glance, no body would ever pick it.
What happened to the belt drive??
Il cross the rear brake bridge when I get to it.
if scrutineering says put it on Il put it on... after an argument of course
Ive put the tank cover on it and weighed it 142.5kg
nothing a titanium shock spring and composite brake discs wont fix.
belt started to jump under load.
the tooth profile is pretty shallow and square unlike the harley belts, high profile and round.
back to the drawing board on that one
did 65k's on its first charge under relatively light load ie 400 amps
so it should do 30 under race conditions.
motor still needs a lot of tuning and mods.
RIPPERTON
15-03-2011, 06:20 PM
How long does it take to charge ????
1 hour 30 min
heres the voltage monitors that basically tell me via a beep noise when the battery is flat ie when one cell block or the other gets down to 3 volts.
Also shows me how evenly the cells are charging back up.
Very important to not let any cells over volt or they pop.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00085.jpg?t=1300173161
each of the 4 monitors does 8 cells which range from 4.2v down to 3v
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00084.jpg?t=1300173161
Schtevo
15-03-2011, 09:57 PM
so it takes 1:30 to fully charge - that's from dead flat I'm assuming.
Q1. How will it go on a track day - that is if you start fiully charged, will 20 mins of race conditions be able to recharge in the 1 hour between sessions or will you get less and less charge each session?
Q2. Does it charge from a standard 240V outlet - this thing is pretty heavy duty, does that mean a 15A outlet, or even 3 phase is required to charge it?
Hats off to you Rip - I am seriously impressed with the way this is progressing, it is going to be something to see when it finally does some hot laps.
RIPPERTON
16-03-2011, 07:53 AM
so it takes 1:30 to fully charge - that's from dead flat I'm assuming.
Q1. How will it go on a track day - that is if you start fiully charged, will 20 mins of race conditions be able to recharge in the 1 hour between sessions or will you get less and less charge each session?
Q2. Does it charge from a standard 240V outlet - this thing is pretty heavy duty, does that mean a 15A outlet, or even 3 phase is required to charge it?
Hats off to you Rip - I am seriously impressed with the way this is progressing, it is going to be something to see when it finally does some hot laps.
yes but dead flat is 98v
you cant take a LiPo below 2.8v or else it pops just like when you over volt it.
The monitors beep when any cell gets to 3v. theres 33 cells in series so dead flat is about 99v.
In a track day situation you would run a second battery and swap it.
The charger is 3kW 240v, spits out about 20A, dont know what its drawing but I have 28A fuses in my house.
theoretically if its putting out 136v and 20 amps it will draw 10amps at 240 volts aprox.
would definitely need a genset at Wakefield.
each cell can handle 9 amps charge so I could use a 108A charger
r6destroyer
17-03-2011, 07:06 PM
RIP, Im seriously impressed with the r&d you've put into this. What is the best forum to join, website etc to find other like minded people to offer advice on making an E car. Im not interested in converting a small shitbox that already gets 7l/100 I think its pointless, but i do get that its a weight thing. I want to research converting a family sized car eg commodore wagon. Heaps of room for batteries under the wagon floor. It has to transport 2 adults and 3 kids for daily school runs etc 50 to 100k range per charge would be nice, powered of course by my 5kw grid connect solar system at home. Apologies for hijacking your thread, pm if you like. In the mean time ill check out your link to the diy forum 10 pages back.
RIPPERTON
18-03-2011, 07:42 AM
Sounds like a good project r6.
people are getting good results with Headway lithium battery cells.
A friend of mine has developed battery management electronics locally.
DIY is a good forum and show up at our AEVA meetings in Castle Hill.
http://sites.google.com/site/sydneyaeva/nextmeeting
RIPPERTON
18-03-2011, 08:01 AM
billet racing fan, I have no idea how to design diffuser blades but heres a start.
These blades might be too steep and could stall at higher rpm.
The cnc router was running 6 hours for this.
Im still amazed at the quality of stuff I can make with a $7k Chinese machine.
had 2 different programs and a tool change. note tricky radius inside edges.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/bltfan2.jpg?t=1300395356
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/bltfan3.jpg?t=1300395356
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/bltfan1.jpg?t=1300395356
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/bltfan4.jpg?t=1300395356
feckin cool
funny you could probably go and buy that for a small amount, would be good to say fuck it im gonna make it
ZXRider
18-03-2011, 06:52 PM
My CNC is bigger than your's :blumsmiley:.....And has 48 tool's in the tool store:ayyy:....
I wouldn't mind having one like your's in the garage:cool:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x291/weidenhofer/155381_483027348872_722988872_5835427_727653_n.jpg
Dave75
19-03-2011, 12:25 PM
What a machine!!!
RIPPERTON
19-03-2011, 02:09 PM
spun her up just now and this fan BLOWS.
new Hall sensor mount.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00090.jpg?t=1300504073
RIPPERTON
24-03-2011, 11:13 AM
one for the AC buffs
the Kelly controller produces a trapezoidal or square wave voltage signal in the phases.
The Mars motor has Sinusoidal Neodimium magnets and is designed to work with controllers
that produce a sine wave voltage like the Sevcon.
The Mars and the Kelly isnt exactly the best marriage but it does run.
Mars has experimented with trapezoidal magnets and is Fedexing me 70 of them (5kg).
I am also doubleing the number of magnets because the magnets Ive used in the motors
so far have been demagnetized not due to overheating as I originally thought but due to overamping.
So I just have to make a new rotor thats twice as thick as the old one and move the coils apart so the rotor fits in between.
Lots of work, hope to have it running by end of next month
RIPPERTON
14-04-2011, 06:56 PM
Ive made a new rotor that is effectively 16mm thick, 4x 4mm magnets.
Have moved the stators back in the casings, didnt need to widen the motor.
Motor has twice the torque now and runs much better.
Bike now gets 70km to a charge where it used to get 60km. can do 100kmh at half throttle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T7XzPVteAI
Im taking the bike to the Easter Show tmrw (Friday) just inside gate 10
and also competing in the TTXGP series in Formula Extreme end of April.
red_hornet_TR
14-04-2011, 07:33 PM
:clap: sounds incredible! The whine just keeps going.
Friend of mine is building an endruance electric bike for his engineering thesis.
Showed him your thread so you might be getting questions ;-)
RIPPERTON
25-04-2011, 12:48 AM
My horn weighs 10 grams.
4 piezo's in parallel run on 12v make a very weird noise but audible.
cant describe it but will try to get it in the next vid
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/horn1.jpg?t=1303652518
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/horn2.jpg?t=1303652518
RIPPERTON
27-04-2011, 12:30 PM
Canadian thing claims to be worlds lightest Electric race bike
but Rippy's R1 is 5kg lighter HAha
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/04/amarok-p1-electric-motorcycle
RIPPERTON
02-05-2011, 09:11 AM
I didnt have to put a spanner on the bike the whole weekend, well I did have to connect the laptop and reset some parameters.
The controller is still only set at 50% which is 500 amps. Ive just gone for a short ride on 700A and went heaps faster
A 6 kVa genny wouldnt charge my battery so had to find a vacant section of pits to get some power points that wouldnt trip out all the time.
heres a vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpkgXpNNo14
RIPPERTON
02-05-2011, 09:11 AM
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WET4URacing
02-05-2011, 09:28 AM
was funny to watch.
paint drying cums to mind .
wattie was on fire from the bleeches
but well dun ripper you got it to go round the fastest out of the 2 so thats a win.
but the comment over the PA "its the way of the future " mmmmmmmmmmmm
when FX 1st started in 97 they were going to keep the bikes stock or very close to and the 1 thing that was 1st changed was the exhaust rule . 1st it was complete stock then a muffler then full system.
the change to muffler was for the viewing(well listening) public and complete was coz them yamaha's and there exup .
the best part when moto gp turned up with $ strokes was the awsome noise. same as F1 and V8 taxi's
Schtevo
02-05-2011, 06:16 PM
Congrats Rip - it must have been a great feeling to finally ride the bugger in anger after all the work you have put into it. Lets hope you get a few more competitors out there so you can really judge how well you've done.
What sort of times did you run, and how did they compare to your times on a "traditional" R1?
RIPPERTON
02-05-2011, 08:17 PM
This was just a motor temp test run to see if the cooling fans worked or not.
The motor temp climbed up to 90C and seemed to hover there. This was with the controller set at 50%
ie 500 amps which is way more than the manufacturer intended. (180)
Also the magnets arnt what I really want in there they are just an in between magnet till I get the custom
jobs from China. I did a 1.25 in my first session then in second session did 1.29 cause the magnets deteriorated
a bit from copping 500 amps but they didnt die out alltogether which confused me a bit cause thats what the
original magnets did.
The big plus is the chassis is ok and still performs as original in spite of the major rework. I thought there would be
noticable torsion in the chassis and that would make it feel sloppy in corners.
The biggest prob I have is tire temp, they are running at 50C which is too cold. I had a slide going up the hill but caught it.
reason for this is theres not enough power, speed and generally not enough energy to keep them at 75C
This is the only missmatch in trying to make an R1 an electric race bike.
I can either change all the electrics over to a 250cc GP chassis which has smaller tires
or try to get more serious power out of the gear that I have.
This is a funny thing. You have all seen how long it has taken to get 40 kilo off both of my bikes, about 5 years.
On the weeknd I did the same in 15 seconds, just walked into Liam Wilkinsons pit and asked him if he wanted
to ride the bike, he weighes 65kg and I weigh 105, easy. but with him on it the tires run even colder.
Last thing I did on Sunday after I was happy with the cooling system was turn the controller up from
500 to 700 amps and hope there would be an extra session at the end of the day but didnt happen.
Rode it this morning and had seriously more power and still have another 300 amps to go.
2 months till Eastern Creek should see the new bigger magnets in and more top speed.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/IMGP3360.jpg?t=1304327841
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/IMGP3366.jpg?t=1304327841
holdontight
02-05-2011, 09:17 PM
Awesome Ripperton. Its really starting to come together. I like the sound it makes. Reminds me of the Jetsons. Keep the updates coming.
RIPPERTON
02-05-2011, 11:30 PM
more vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7sQ30AUCmI
chief
04-05-2011, 01:23 PM
top effort,
sound does remind me of forklifts and jacks at work,
Should be able to build some new tracks in suburbia with the lower noise levels......
RIPPERTON
04-05-2011, 11:28 PM
Should be able to build some new tracks in suburbia with the lower noise levels......
good point Chief
there are electric only motocross tracks popping up in Switzerland in the middle of towns.
You just ride out of your driveway down the street and do a few laps.
RIPPERTON
07-05-2011, 06:53 PM
At midday today on the spur of the moment I decided to go do a track day with the R1. Rocked up and did the last 2 sessions in White group which had plenty of spodes to chew up and spit out. top speed at 700 amps was 162kmh but no idea of lap times. The bike was riding like a 125 and was a heap of fun.
winding temps were up at the 140C.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/EC.jpg?t=1304754306
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/topspeedEC.jpg?t=1304754306
ottospunkmeister
07-05-2011, 06:57 PM
Good to see your handiwork today :ayyy:
Jamesy
07-05-2011, 11:04 PM
At midday today on the spur of the moment I decided to go do a track day with the R1. Rocked up and did the last 2 sessions in White group which had plenty of spodes to chew up and spit out. top speed at 700 amps was 162kmh but no idea of lap times. The bike was riding like a 125 and was a heap of fun.
winding temps were up at the 140C.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/EC.jpg?t=1304754306
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/topspeedEC.jpg?t=1304754306
It sounded like George Jetson's space mobile going by. :ayyy:
joystick
15-05-2011, 09:25 PM
Caught some footage of you on SBS - Speedweek FX wrap-up today.
Nice work mate.
RIPPERTON
16-05-2011, 11:16 PM
Caught some footage of you on SBS - Speedweek FX wrap-up today.
Nice work mate.
Thanks Andre
Heres a vid of the new RS35 double row drive chain I just put on the bike.
Had to make a billet 22t front sprocket from 7075 T6 and 74t rear sprocket from nylon. both sprockets will have to be remade due to prototyping errors.
The test was a quick blip to full throttle and timed rev down to stop.
I was expecting the RS35 to be quieter but if anything its the same or a bit louder but it is definitely smoother than the 520.The RS35 ratio is a bit shorter which doesnt really help, it just reduces top speed.
The 520 has almost twice the rolling resistance and a kilo heavier.
oh hay my bike just lost a kilo !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEnpEvaS_3s
RIPPERTON
16-05-2011, 11:17 PM
$1400 for 24 magnets could make 3 rotors with 8 magnets each.
I am tempted to make a rotor with 16 of these ie 32mm thick
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00032.jpg?t=1305513802
RIPPERTON
04-06-2011, 02:52 PM
I can now publish phase 1 designs as they dont work and I am moving on to phase 2 with the custom magnets
Axial air flow didnt work as it was transfering heat from the inlet coil to the outlet coil as you can see from the browny discoloration of the outlet coil.
What this does mean though is that these coils can handle 700A as long as they get fresh air ! so I am now going to phase 2 air flow with the custom magnets.
I can give a good report of Fiorenza's 4mm magnets as they seem to have not lost any of their strength even after being clouted with 1000A from my Kelly
although one of them did get a few cracks. I though the outer magnets would be weaker than the inner but they are the same. I didnt use a measuring devise to gauge the strength, just held a stack in each hand close to a sheet of steel. My custom single piece 16mm magnets are stronger even though they are 180 degree C and the 4mm's are 120C I think
I was doing 160kmh at 700A on main straight of Eastern Creek and I think I once heard the chain jump the teeth of the front sprocket as I foolishly gave full
throttle at low speed (30kmh). I have to use the throttle like a gearbox giving low throttle at low speed.
The 7075T6 rotor halves I made showed no cracks and have used a similar design in phase 2. I was able to free spin the rotor up to 5400rpm on 1000A.
Have contemplated using a different higher voltage lower amp controller 180v 800A.
Going racing at Eastern Creek on 2 July.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/PHASE1ROTOR1.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/PHASE1ROTOR2.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/PHASE1ROTOR3.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/PHASE1ROTOR4.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/AFTER7.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/AFTER6.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/AFTER2.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/AFTER1.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/AFTER8.jpg
RIPPERTON
10-06-2011, 12:07 PM
New magnets are in and working well with the new rotor.
It is flowing a lot of air but still needs ducting.
have done a few test rides on 1000A and has heaps of torque, maybe too much, still think it needs higher volts and lower amps.
have inquired about special pricing for Kelly controller through TTXGP reps here in Sydney.
here is phase 3 hall sensor mounting. Have flipped the hall rotor around so it faces inward and had to swap a few hall wires in the plug.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/HALLPHASE3.jpg
this is the worlds lightest liter bike rear wheel 10.1kg.
Kevlar belted Michelin Power ONE, Dymag carbon rim, no brake disc and MotoGP design sprocket.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/REARWHEEL.jpg
This Michy is a 190 55 17 but it physically measures 200mm from edge to edge.
though it looked awfully squeezy in that swingarm when I first put it in.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/MICHELIN1.jpg
Mr.Ed
10-06-2011, 12:24 PM
Are you allowed to race without a rear disk?
RIPPERTON
10-06-2011, 12:55 PM
Are you allowed to race without a rear disk?
I think so
It was pointed out to the scrutineers down at Wakefield and they said it was ok.
The KERS brake can chirp the rear tire if you are hard on the front at the same time.
Mr.Ed
10-06-2011, 01:21 PM
I know they wouldn't let me out with a broken rear brake lever on a track day (eastern creek)... they said I would need it in case I ran off track. Thankfully someone had a spare one.
RIPPERTON
10-06-2011, 01:46 PM
I know they wouldn't let me out with a broken rear brake lever on a track day (eastern creek)... they said I would need it in case I ran off track. Thankfully someone had a spare one.
Yeah thats because with no lever you have absolutely no rear brake at all. with KERS I have a rear brake even though theres no disc
RIPPERTON
22-06-2011, 05:49 PM
Heres the chain side Ram Air manifold cncd from 17mm thick Acetal plate.
with alloy ducting and alloy duct stay. The ducts are a snug fit on the manifold without hose clamps but the stay holds them on there.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00002-2.jpg
The duct fittings are cncd from the same material and are glued on with araldite...lots of it.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00003-3.jpg
it bolts onto the motor plate and seals against it and the motor case.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00005-2.jpg
I finally settled on a chain drive but got an RK motocross chain without Orings, 500gr lighter than an Oring chain.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00004-2.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00006.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00010-2.jpg
God I love Hot Glue
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00011-2.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00012-1.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00008.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00007-1.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00013-1.jpg
WET4URacing
22-06-2011, 06:42 PM
here is the chain you really need. fuk loads less noisey
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9234/zx7r006.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/zx7r006.jpg/)
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RIPPERTON
26-06-2011, 06:44 PM
More stuff, Im just showing off now :butt
cncing the hall side ram air manifold
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00015.jpg
Held in the center by sprung bracket the hall wires sneak out through a notch top left
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00017.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00016.jpg
same duct stay as on the left.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00018.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00019-1.jpg
SNORT
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00020-1.jpg
*Oggy*
26-06-2011, 10:35 PM
Is that the same CNC Router.. still going strong ?
RIPPERTON
27-06-2011, 08:35 AM
Is that the same CNC Router.. still going strong ?
Yes
Im definitely one of their luckier customers
the engineering Gods have favored me
Wattie
27-06-2011, 09:49 AM
Just a question,
If you are pushing air in both sides, where is the coming out?
Busta
27-06-2011, 11:00 AM
Just a question,
If you are pushing air in both sides, where is the coming out?
consider yourself lucky you're not doing rips laundry
*Oggy*
28-06-2011, 06:23 AM
Just a question,
If you are pushing air in both sides, where is the coming out?
I'm guessing the wind blasting past the holes is causing a negative pressure so it's sucking the air out.
RIPPERTON
28-06-2011, 09:30 AM
Just a question,
If you are pushing air in both sides, where is the coming out?
this is the standard axial air flow with an external fan, doesnt work as the coil on the left gets the heat from the coil on the right.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/STANDARDAIRFLOW.jpg
This is the current air flow. hot air exits out of holes in the ends of the cylindrical part of the motor cases. the rotor is the fan.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/ADVANCEDAIRCOOLINGSYSTEM.jpg
RIPPERTON
28-06-2011, 09:32 AM
I'm guessing the wind blasting past the holes is causing a negative pressure so it's sucking the air out.
Yep, you're guessing
RIPPERTON
02-07-2011, 05:16 PM
got 1st WOO
but no great achievement- only 3 on the grid fastest lap 2.11
vids soon
RIPPERTON
02-07-2011, 11:34 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/splinter/5893841528/in/photostream/
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5270/5893712438_d47c7a5f16.jpg
RIPPERTON
03-07-2011, 12:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usrpzbYAjn4
RIPPERTON
04-07-2011, 09:19 AM
Big Ass trophy for winning the historic first ever electric bike race in Australia
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/FirstPlaceeFXC.jpg
Second race on Sunday was reduced from 5 to 4 laps after I had stayed up till after midnight manually balancing each cell block with 3 RC chargers at very low amperage. Decided to resume individual charging the next day at the track with a friends lab power supply. Was able to pump 17 amps into each block. The pack looks a lot better now at low voltage even though after 5 laps was still at 120v from 134v full.
The competition virtually eliminated itself, I smelt burnt motor coming around T9 hairpin and found Chris Jones parked on the onside of T1 with yet another blown Agni being picked up by tenders. Catavolt fault coded one of its 2 Kelly controllers and was basically running on 1 controller with an unfamiliar rider on board, rider no1 broke collar bone in a previous race on his super motard.
I did a new personal best lap of 2.07 on the last lap by actually using full throttle on some exits. Was surprising how much power I wasnt using the whole weekend, the R1 really launches out of turns but that pushed the stator temps up to 150C.
time for water injection
RIPPERTON
04-07-2011, 09:20 AM
Rear view from my bike in turn 2 lap 1 of Sunday race.
Black bike is Chris Jones From Perth and Amy Omara on Catavolt
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/rearviewEcreek.jpg
WET4URacing
04-07-2011, 09:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usrpzbYAjn4
oh great look what we have to look(coz we cant hear it) forward to fellow gasoline burners. you toob from the future 2044
result for completing the session.
RIPPERTON
04-07-2011, 09:39 AM
oh great look what we have to look(coz we cant hear it) forward to fellow gasoline burners. you toob from the future 2044
result for completing the session.
Were you the guy hanging around outside the mens toilets all weekend
post reported
RIPPERTON
06-07-2011, 02:35 PM
eXFC racing at Eastern Creek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpAJP5FB500&feature=channel_video_title
WET4URacing
06-07-2011, 06:48 PM
Were you the guy hanging around outside the mens toilets all weekend
post reported
no i was the 1 hangin around the rostrum with my import all weekend makin sure his engrish was collect while being interviewed .
RIPPERTON
12-07-2011, 10:51 AM
Heres how my competition got eliminated.
twin dc motors running off one controller in parallel.
the motors didnt have thier timing properly balanced so one was working more than the other
the silver spots are molten solder spraying out of the vent holes in the casing
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/Chrisbellypan.jpg
Guy squating is the owner / rider from Perth changing a motor over in my lab. We were lucky to find a replacement motor here in Sydney.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/Chrismotorswap.jpg
Wattie
12-07-2011, 04:27 PM
Heres how my competition got eliminated.
twin dc motors running off one controller in parallel.
the motors didnt have thier timing properly balanced so one was working more than the other
the silver spots are molten solder spraying out of the vent holes in the casing
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/Chrisbellypan.jpg
Guy squating is the owner / rider from Perth changing a motor over in my lab. We were lucky to find a replacement motor here in Sydney.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/Chrismotorswap.jpg
Obviously not enough electricity left for them to shave!
Darke99
12-07-2011, 05:19 PM
That's pretty cool. Congrats on the Win!
SIX36
12-07-2011, 06:34 PM
Obviously not enough electricity left for them to shave!
But they are scientists in the lab lol
jakel
13-07-2011, 11:51 AM
There is a story on Formula Extreme about the electric race but only gives Ripperton a brief mention as winner as the whole story bangs on about the bike that came 3rd in race one & 2nd in race two.
Why not more of a story about the winning bike?
veitch-y
13-07-2011, 12:06 PM
I loved this quote from the FX story "Starting from last place on the grid, Chris hole-shot to the front, a testament to the powerful twin-motor arrangement." Made it sound like he made up alot of ground but last place was still on front row .
there was a whole other article about Ripper though .
http://www.aus-superbikes.com.au/xtremema.nsf/ae002b388f9db369ca2574ed00200523/cb5117599bbf8abaca2578c30005761b?opendocument
*Oggy*
14-07-2011, 01:00 AM
Good one Ripperton.......
Wattie
14-07-2011, 07:59 AM
What's the difference between the 2 classes??
But odd having 2 classes for 3 bikes...
RIPPERTON
14-07-2011, 08:55 AM
What's the difference between the 2 classes??
But odd having 2 classes for 3 bikes...
Battery size
TTX75 has 7.5kWh limit on battery size
my class TTXGP (EU) or eFXC (AUS) is the unlimited battery size class. Ive only got 7kWh but Im working on a quick swap system
so in an IOM situation I would use 14kWh over the lap
some of the IOM bikes have 14kWh on board and weigh 240kg (lol)
the 2 catagory system has to go as Ive made a recommendation to TTXGP
that for safety reasons individual pack size has to be kept to a minimum (7 or 8 kWh) so
as to minimize the quantity of lithium in any one area and that all packs be quick release.
WET4URacing
17-07-2011, 06:13 PM
Better step it up ripper
(sorry if its a repost )
http://electric-vehicles-cars-bikes.blogspot.com/search/label/Electric%20Bike
Wattie
17-07-2011, 08:54 PM
How can he set the record if he was second in class??
Big Lunt
17-07-2011, 10:46 PM
Well done ripperton makes all the hardwork seem worthwhile
not only fastest but also best looking bike
looks like you are getting some good heat through those tyres now
RIPPERTON
18-07-2011, 09:02 AM
Yeah tires were still 50C but much stickier.
*Corporate FAIL
we have people in garages making superbikes and all Honda can come up with is this
pissy girl scooter with drum front brakes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDV7b1KqgP4&feature=player_embedded
RIPPERTON
18-07-2011, 09:06 AM
Honda probly spent more on the add than Ive spent on my whole bike
wade193
18-07-2011, 12:19 PM
She looked comfortable riding something battery powered.
RIPPERTON
20-07-2011, 11:18 AM
Neodymium crash
$140 down the drain
was handling some of the custom magnets after dismantling the rotor.
2 of them got out of hand and sparks flew as they crashed together
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/Neocrash2.jpg?t=1311120224
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/Neocrash1.jpg
So they're reasonably powerful magnets then?
RIPPERTON
10-08-2011, 10:40 PM
The R1 is going back together slowly as Im doing lots of mods at once.
heres one of the new 144v 600A Kellys with aluminium braid power cables
to Kilovac and fuse holder.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/600AKELLY.jpg?t=1312791621
Heres a layout of the water cooling system with tiny pump and see through hoses and Hyundai clutch reservoir as a tank.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/WATERCOOLING1.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/WATERCOOLING2.jpg
Theres a few leaks which need fixing. Hope I get all this theoretical stuff converted to practical before next eFXC race in September.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/WATERCOOLING3.jpg
Schtevo
11-08-2011, 09:25 AM
What are you using for a radiator / heat exchanger?
RIPPERTON
12-08-2011, 12:09 AM
Just got water cooling system finished so went for a trackday
down the Creek. no photos but great on bike video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzHUcvzHJVU
did all 6 sessions but only 4 laps per session (16km)
except one session did 5 laps (20km) and last session did 6 and half laps 26km and bottomed the pack but didnt damage any cells.
was able to recharge with just enough time between sessions.
water cooling went well but needs 2 fans on the under seat radiator to move the air properly as I cant put it up in front of the battery.
had a few leaks but turned out to be very effective at removing heat from the stators.
bike still weighes 135kg and as you can see
absolutely chops up anything in turns.
RIPPERTON
12-08-2011, 12:12 AM
What are you using for a radiator / heat exchanger?
one of these under the seat
http://www.atracingworld.com/images/productslarge/7D3D39C2-A346-483E-BF80-5ED5115591FA_1.jpg
with 2 of these on it
http://www.altech.com.au/images/products/00019/19456.jpg
RIPPERTON
07-09-2011, 11:12 AM
Bad weekend at Winton
blew up both controllers and bike just didnt want to go.
getting new bigger controller for Wakefield.
RIPPERTON
16-09-2011, 04:52 PM
heres one of the grand total of 4 laps I did at Winton.
$960 entry fee, thats $240 a lap but Ive asked for the entry fee to be transfered to the next race.
This eFXC thing is so expensive, for that money I could get 8 hours of track time on ride days.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/084.jpg
Marshy
16-09-2011, 05:41 PM
$960 entry fee
Why is it double a noisy bike?????
RIPPERTON
16-09-2011, 11:19 PM
Why is it double a noisy bike?????
Were kinda sanctioned under TTXGP in the UK and had to fly one of them down here for the first race to get our scrutineers trained up.
But theres the possibility of them paying freight to OS races like IOM and series winners get to go OS
good thing Im the only one in my class down here !
RIPPERTON
09-10-2011, 11:15 PM
F I R E !!!
Wakefield.
After 8 laps of racing my windings caught fire and siezed the motor right as I crossed the finish line. Dragged the bike to a halt at the end of the pit wall and I looked down and saw flames licking around the casing behind the front sprocket, went out by itself pretty quick .
Got first place about 200m in front of Catavolt and Voltron.
Heres a Flyby with Jason (Catavolt rider)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5mbT_HDqiU
The problems started on Friday practice, the bike was perfect with brand new stators in. I missed the start of the first practice session because of faulty PA system so only got an out lap and an in lap but the bike was doing 155kmh on 132v 800A and really pulling hard and clean and handling lots of full throttle.
Then just before second session I got a migrain (blurred vision) so I offered the session to Jason, But as I gave him the bike I forgot to switch the water pump on and I only rmbrd when he was on the 5 lap so that basically toasted the brand new stators but they were still functioning and hadnt shorted to the cores but they were on their way out.
I did a 1.22, Jason did a 1.19.
So come race time the next day I had to nurse the bike to the finish line.
I chased Jason around the track for the first 5 laps then Catavolt had a controller shut down and reboot so he stalled coming out of a corner, I said see ya later and went solo to the line.
I won the race but Catavolt won the Championship because of my DNF at Winton. He completed more races.
Chris' Voltron had even more dramas. He crashed in Fridays practice and landed on his right Agni and crushed its brush holder to bits. Went back to Canberra and got new parts and got it going again.....that is untill Saturdays Qualifying in the wet (damp), he came past me going down the straight and I said to my self hes going to crash and sure enough up the back of the track on a right hander right in front of me it went down again on the right Agni. Chris had to remove the brush holder and run the race on one motor....which did guess what, yep smoked itself, threw its solder.
All in all the whole weekend was a big party and a lot of fun racing and blowing shit up !!!
RIPPERTON
10-10-2011, 10:51 AM
Classic video me crossing finish line with smoke pissing out of my motor followed by the other guys 28 seconds behind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8jdHZVOIzw
RIPPERTON
21-01-2012, 11:24 AM
made another new battery pack, this one only 164v so wont have the same probs I had at Winton
40 cells in series and 10 parallel. 7kWh and 50kg with Quick Release Mechanism.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/40101.jpg
top view of blade connection
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/QRM1.jpg
side view
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/QRM2.jpg
QRM (Quick Release Mechanism) for IOM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/QRM3.jpg
hook in lock position
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/QRM4.jpg
Hook in unlock position
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/QRM5.jpg
Big Lunt
21-01-2012, 12:08 PM
nice work dan its coming along nicely
RIPPERTON
04-02-2012, 08:12 PM
just got back from my road trip and couldnt get any track time until this afternoon.
Friday at Wakefield was rained out (bikes not water proofed yet)
met some bucket racers and they said I should ask if I could get into the bucket class the next day but wasnt to be even though I invoked the law of Burt Munroe I would be too fast for the buckets ??!!.
So drove home and caught the last session at Eastern Creek.
Unfortunately no video or photos.
New Top Speed 175.8 kph
all temperatures are under control
pack 43C
Controller 42C
Coils 98C. Didnt get radiator temp but they would be colder than 98C.
Now the right coil runs 3C hotter than the left meaning the advance or synchronisation is solely responsible for the running temp.
The pack bothers me the most because of the high IR's of the cells and the top half of the pack doesnt get the direct air blast that the bottom half gets because it is behind the frame. Also when I brought the bike home the pack was still warm so I pulled it out and propped a fan up against it to get the heat out.
I did 26km in the session but cell 17 crashed and caused me to stop.
theres easily 32km of racing range in that pack.
Anyway the bike is as agile and fast in corners as ever and I can really feel the 141kg although the smallish motor was tripping the controller out any time I went over 80% current (340A).
__________________
blackzook
04-02-2012, 08:48 PM
Incredible piece of engineering RIP.
RIPPERTON
06-02-2012, 01:15 PM
Thanks Blackzook.
Did Dyno run today at Campelltown Motorcycles
dont focus on the number too much (61hp) Im not sure if its too accurate.
we did 2 runs the first one was 53hp and the second was 61hp, Shannon said he rolled the throttle on differently the second time.
The Dyno speedo read 200kmh but I only get 175 on track so I will
be making a smaller front sprocket so I can use up all the revs.
what is interesting is the shape of the torque curve and its position in relation to the hp curve.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/R1DYNORUN.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYQiPKrbVg0&feature=plcp&context=C3454142UDOEgsToPDskLt2T4iDVLnwyIqnBmKLvVR
jasonbw
06-02-2012, 04:00 PM
Dan, that label of 70nm thats drawn in, its on the graph at about 52nm?
How's it feel to accelerate though, with it being light is it nice n punchy? The top speed would suck when doing the north circuit !!!
Mr.Ed
06-02-2012, 05:03 PM
Probably fun to race against the 400's if it's light enough
triumph
06-02-2012, 06:26 PM
61 HP is not bad for a electric razor .
RIPPERTON
06-02-2012, 07:21 PM
52 ftlbs is 70Nm
Punchy is the word
Torque is the real thing bitches
top speed 175kmh no lift for T1.
Ed go tell Aus Superbike admin Id like to race the Tards and 400's, I already have.
They want us in our own category for exposure cause there are private intrests sponsoring the Ebikes.
I tried to get in the buckets too at Wakey on Saturday but said no too different and would woop em.
triumph
06-02-2012, 07:48 PM
when is the next outing at eastern creek.
jasonbw
06-02-2012, 08:45 PM
Thanks Tom, well noticed.
Rip, reckon a few would pay to try that out for a lap or two!
RIPPERTON
06-02-2012, 09:07 PM
16 17 18 March at the creek but no points just testing.
Kev Curtain can set the Ebike lap records, call it even.
http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/ae002b388f9db369ca2574ed00200523/0020A2C9CB918021CA2579940076DAEB!OpenDocument
RIPPERTON
10-02-2012, 07:55 PM
Heres my charging process
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/BOCV-MONS.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/BOCELCON.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/AUTOOFFSETTING.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/STARTOFCHARGE.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/TOCV-MONS.jpg
RIPPERTON
10-02-2012, 07:56 PM
an hour and 21 minutes
$1.34
31.81 Ah
5.575 kWh
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/TOCELCON.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DISCHARGE.jpg
heres the bad boy
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/DSC00026.jpg
RIPPERTON
27-04-2012, 12:21 PM
first round of Australian 2012 TTXGP eFXC Wakefield
WOW what a weekend. Only Ripperton and Catavolt showed up.
some very close racing, almost too close sometimes.
in Friday practice we got a good idea of the pace between the 2 bikes.
There was almost nothing in it. The combined bike rider weight was
Ripperton 141+105=246kg 61hp
Catavolt 175+75= 245kg 60hp
I had advantage on corner entry due to better brakes
Catavolt had advantage on exit due to more copper (torque) and 2 controllers
I had to use the Kellys boost function to avoid overamp cutouts.
The controller ramped down amps when it gets feedback from motor.
Made the bike very slow out of corners.
even our top speed were similar, I clocked a 170.8kph in a draft behind Catavolt but would get a 169kph in the wind.
Catavolt top speed was about 165kph.
On Friday we kept ramping up our own settings to squeeze a bit more out.
My pack was behaving so well with the new BMS I set draw on battery to 90% and the pack would come off track at max 48C and cool down straight away even while charging at 24A.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/ripperton_rear_view_4CEA18.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/ripperton_pilot_view_right.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/ripperton_left_bend.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/ripperton_catavolt_behind.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8144/6955440948_c6b68b37fe_z.jpg
RIPPERTON
27-04-2012, 12:22 PM
Racing was damn close.
Saturdays race was reduced from 6 to 4 laps due to delays in the days schedule caused by a few serious gas bike wrecks and the Ambulance had to go to Hospital twice.
Catavolt got the start but was taken in l2 when I outbraked him in t4.
got me back in t10 a lap later. I got him back again in t2.
Then in l4 got me on brakes in t10 but unwittingly pulled out his lanyard 50m before the finish line. I was gifted the win but got fastest lap which now stands as race lap record for eFXC catagory. 1m15.607.
Race 2 Sunday also cut down to 4 laps, Jason learnt all the possible places I could overtake under brakes and studiously slammed the door shut every corner of every lap so had a lot of trouble overtaking him. We nearly crashed at least 6 times on Sunday where I had to back out each time to avoid a crash. came in second 1.2s behind. also fastest lap in race 1.15.663
some Data for Sundays race 5 minutes 13 seconds
4 laps plus out lap and in lap 13.95km
used 2.95kWh start voltage 163v Finish voltage 150v
16.6Ah
cost 70c
Some vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woyyx0idwVA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ6SWnHFVEY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CCYyPqCXGY&feature=relmfu
Schtevo
27-04-2012, 12:31 PM
The combined bike rider weight was
Ripperton 141+105=246kg 61hp
Catavolt 175+75= 245kg 60hp
Mate great work as always, but your bike is 34kg lighter than his and combined weight 1kg heavier, time to call Jenny to get more competitive ;)
You must have felt like Steve Bradbury when he pulled the lanyard with the line in sight
Excellent work Rip. Thanks for the update too!
"Steve Bradbury" :pisslaugh: ;)
RIPPERTON
30-04-2012, 07:20 PM
Mate great work as always, but your bike is 34kg lighter than his and combined weight 1kg heavier, time to call Jenny to get more competitive ;)
You must have felt like Steve Bradbury when he pulled the lanyard with the line in sight
Jenny Craig cant ride too fast mate but Shaun Geronimi can and he weighes 60kg. He had a go on Saturday morning and loved it.
took him 3 turns to figure out the tires were crap and needed standard brake pads.
He gave me one of his used tard Pirelis.
Sooner or later I hand over the riding duties to someone else cause I aint ever getting any lighter or faster
RIPPERTON
06-05-2012, 12:57 PM
A little music...5200rpm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GFgchxnXY&feature=plcp
Shaun on the bike
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7137/7101514317_b072c81660_c.jpg
Smooooooooothy
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ripperton_2008/Electric%20R1/PitGirlsLarge.jpg
Big Lunt
06-05-2012, 05:38 PM
You can almost read your thoughts in that photo rip!
Great stuff on the racing
Wattie
06-05-2012, 07:46 PM
Looks like the girl on the left is trying to pry herself away :p
RIPPERTON
07-05-2012, 01:04 PM
Looks like the girl on the left is trying to pry herself away :p
I know but the other one has got her hand on my 400A fuse !! 8^)
hgsuzuki
12-05-2012, 02:07 PM
Interesting stuff Rip, keep the updates and progress coming.
Whats next for the bike, how to improve it some more to try and gain an edge over the opposition; new tyres on the cards?
What is a rough estimate in the costs of the electrical gear in its current incarnation?
RIPPERTON
19-05-2012, 09:10 AM
hg
Ive got some new beefier stators coming from China direct from the manufacturer on a semi sponsorship deal. Cheap parts for stickers on the bike.
They have the same turns but wider slots and 30% more copper. $50 each 10kg. I couldnt get them rewound here in Oz for less than a grand each.
Also getting new A grade LiPo cells from China (where else) to rebuild my pack which is made from b grade cells. $6000 shipped.
I got a twin rotor motor designed and hope to get that running by end of year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8NpaSGD6GM&list=FLoOd7A2JVRmeuaEfGbO7f_g&index=1&feature=plpp_video
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