St George Road Race series 09, who's riding...

[jasonbw]

cmon, speak up... even if you're just thinking about it...

What class, what's your bike, how long have you been racing?

[DanFX]

very tempting, all 3 rounds sound good to me....

first year racing, 08 R6 superstock

[jasonbw]

:( sorry, typo, change to St George RR series... Dan you thinking of that?

[DanFX]

:( sorry, typo, change to St George RR series... Dan you thinking of that?

i was thinking east coast but St George for sure as long as i have the money!
haha

giving the next fx round a go at wakefield in march :ayyy:

[Madmax01]

Yep I'm up for clubsport again this year
Did clubsport and 600's last year just doing clubsport this both where just too much when they ended up back to back races

Have a few things still to sort out after having a shocker at ec in the fx series this month
Looking at doing the ecrrs two weeks before as well

[seals]

St George - yep, 600 Superstock. the 1st round this year will be my 3rd race meeting.

[ozimoto]

I want to have go at racing this year but still haven't found out which series to go in.
I went to watch the bears/fx racing the other weekend and talk to some competitors about times there running.
I don't wont to turn up and be a tail gunner. Any advice on classes to run in and bikes for sale would be appreciated.
Bears F2 class looks good but then the bike is limited to that series.

[squash]

Would like to but money is a problem. R6 Superstock

[Stu23]

I will be racing in the St George.....1st year racing in Oz , learning the circuits etc and managed 2nd overall in clubsport on my r6 , came 9th i think in open 600 and came 8th overall in the club, had a fantastic time, great club to race with, very very friendly and approachable, good bunch of people racing too, cant recomend them enough.

I see James is looking at this thread, Hi James.....
Will be racing with James hopefully too, and we will see how we go....are you still running a clubsport class James ? What is the cut off year ? Will my old 2000 r6 be ok for your series ?

Stu

[j-rad]

I'm gonna compete with you mate!! (jason) but as mentioned, have some sponsers checking me out so just 1-2 races this year - hopefully will come back next season with a few more bucks!! :D

[racegodr1]

Hi all
We are running the NSW State titles at Oran Park GP April 25-26 its open to all riders from novice to A grade.
Below are the classes we are running this year.
Race Series starts in April at Oran Park GP we are still trying for a round at Wakefield Park in May/June sometime.
As for rules etc we dont have any!! 95% of riders just want to race and a fast rider on a slow bike will always beat a slow rider on a fast bike
(isn't that right Wetty!!)

ECRRS CALENDAR FOR 2009.


April 25th-26th State Titles Oran Park GP NSW
Entry forms online Monday 23rd Feb

*Aug 7th-9th Hidden Valley NT (Helping "TERRA" out )*

Sept 4th - 6th Phillip Island VIC*" Vic state title Rd 3"

Nov 21st- 22nd Oran Park GP 6 Hour Endurance Superstock rules 2 riders 1 bike.
Sat we may run a 3 hour teams endurance.
We have a major sponsor for this event, TV , Prize money and some very well known racers turning up to Race the last ever event at Oran Park.
Similar to the old Castrol 6 hour production events.

* not part of our series but worth the trip up i have a container ready to take 20 bikes up at a cost of $200 return bike and gear.
Doing 2 day ride day after the race meeting again this year.

Classes for 2009

Superbikes.

Superstock 1000 as per ASBK rules open tyre rule must be treaded tyre any brand.

Supersport & 250gp

Superstock 600 as per ASBK rules open tyre rule must be treaded tyre any brand.

Cliubsport Unlimited Superbikes 750cc-1300cc 1996 - 2003

Clubsport 600 up to 1996 - 2003

European Superbikes As per BEARS rules.

Retros 600-1300cc up to 1995

LITES 125gp 250 mono,250 production & 400cc

Maybe sidecars if we get 8 outfits or more.

[Stu23]

Thanks for that James.........No Rules love that :)

Should be at the oran rounds, will be great if you can get a Wakey round in, good luck for that one.

Stu

[Pokey]

I'm part frustrated with fixing the bike and part broke but i might get out for at least 1 round :ayyy:

[RUSSELL]

in the clubsport 600's what times they doin? so i can gauge where im at with mine?

[Madmax01]

in the clubsport 600's what times they doin? so i can gauge where im at with mine?

Russell your times are quick enough to race you start out in d grade anyway and the overall pace is not quick enough to lap any one in an 8 lap race

times from op last year
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?26/10/2008.RRT

and ec
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?15/06/2008.RRT

[Stu23]

fastest was 1:16 in clubsport 600

[sbutler]

Im hoping to have a ride or two in the St george series this year in the pre 95 class.
The 6 hour woud be a ripper event IMO
All comes down to money.:cursing:

[jonoZRX]

I was going to race this year but I've changed my mind. Might do it next year or the year after.

[j-rad]

Russell your times are quick enough to race you start out in d grade anyway and the overall pace is not quick enough to lap any one in an 8 lap race

times from op last year
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?26/10/2008.RRT

and ec
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?15/06/2008.RRT


:ayyy: thanks heaps....seeing this was all the motivation I needed...! I'm seriously considering entering the June EC round this year. Working out some details but looking good :D YAY

[Cooked Goose]

Anyone thinking of doing a Phillip Island day should seriously consider ECRS Sept 4th - 6th Phillip Island VIC*" Vic state title Rd 3". A very relaxed and enjoyable event which caters well for all levels, and includes clubsport classes. I've done the last couple and it makes for a great weekend away as well.

[racegodr1]

i have to agree with you ,even though i promote the event and Lyndel,Ray etc run it, the weekend is the best fun Ive had in 11 years of the business!!!

So much more to it than just the Racing... oh my head!!!

hope to see as many as can come from the rats this year.
heaps of track time!

[SLAC]

Yep i had planned on racing in FX but the wife has restricted that, missed 1st round and will miss 2nd due to her birthday.. So i plan on doing what i can in St-G and ECCRS & PCRA at worst i will do the wacky 1hr for sure

[Stu23]

I have just got to get down to the PI event......I will need a hand getting my bike down there though.....my little folding trailer will be struggling for sure !!! but it is great for local trips .

[jasonbw]

I've got a useful trailer you're welcome to, it's lightweight but would take a couple of heavy 1000's easy.

[tempest161]

we could organise it early, travel in convoy and rent a big house.... 'the rat house'.

top weekend. highly recommened. except for visiting the Isle of Wight on saturday night, my head still hurts!!

[DanFX]

we could organise it early, travel in convoy and rent a big house.... 'the rat house'.

top weekend. highly recommened. except for visiting the Isle of Wight on saturday night, my head still hurts!!

LOL

http://www.danfx.com/isle.JPG

[seals]

I have just got to get down to the PI event......I will need a hand getting my bike down there though.....my little folding trailer will be struggling for sure !!! but it is great for local trips .

Stu - dont be worried. I have the same folding trailer as you, and I was at the PI in Nov last year. It did the trip like a champion! The trailer didnt give any issues cruising at 110-120.

[Stu23]

Thanks for the offer Jason, appreciated.......Seals, so youve taken your trailer all the way down to PI without any problems....that sounds promising....methinks im going to have to have a long chat with my sponsor !!! wonder what she will say ! ahaha

[WET4URacing]

i have to ask the wife?????????????? what the. cant go coz the mrs said no ??????? what the.
whats in your jocks boys???????? dust

[Stu23]

Haha Funny man .... Ill pass your message on.....let me know when your next on a trackday so I can point you out.....hahaha you wont last 2 minutes !! hehehehe

[SLAC]

i have to ask the wife?????????????? what the. cant go coz the mrs said no ??????? what the.
whats in your jocks boys???????? dust


:lmao::lmao::lmao: Yes i know!!! Its called post natal depression mate.. Getting heaps better though. And you bet ya there is dust the pants..

[WET4URacing]

Haha Funny man .... Ill pass your message on.....let me know when your next on a trackday so I can point you out.....hahaha you wont last 2 minutes !! hehehehe

2 min with who........... george foreman???????

[Stu23]

Daughter of an Australian farmer !!! He was in the army before that !! one of those guys you dropped into the jungle I am told....you know they ones !!! Of course he taught his 3 daughters how to look after themselves !! So again Ill say to you, let me know when your next out and ill point you out...maybe give you say 1 minute now ! hehehe

Other than that she my wife and we have 2 kids , and I do not put myself 1st....of course this is all in good fun

Stu

[WET4URacing]

so the answer is dust

[Stu23]

heheheh time will tell !

[WET4URacing]

you can do it.

[tempest161]

Stu - dont be worried. I have the same folding trailer as you, and I was at the PI in Nov last year. It did the trip like a champion! The trailer didnt give any issues cruising at 110-120.

the trailer was alright but the bike was a little 2nd hand by the end of it! Good to see you'll be back out there mate.

[jasonbw]

Get your entries in boys... St George series rd1 is coming up in a few weeks, hopefully see you there.
http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_rrace.php
Anyone want to marshal? Pop me a PM pleeeease!

[RUSSELL]

:ayyy: thanks heaps....seeing this was all the motivation I needed...! I'm seriously considering entering the June EC round this year. Working out some details but looking good :D YAY


if your getting in on the june race, let me know, im flying blind trying to work out how to sign up and all the other info i need, which i dont know what i need to know yet.....

[Johnny]

Get your entries in boys... St George series rd1 is coming up in a few weeks, hopefully see you there.
http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_rrace.php
Anyone want to marshal? Pop me a PM pleeeease!

Best of luck Jason :ayyy:



Kick ass :mod_smilie_rockwoot

[jasonbw]

Russ, check out JRads link in his Sig, he's doing EC rnd 2.
Johnny, mate no kicking arse here, but sure as hell I'll be enjoying the hit I get from gridding up, that's the kick I want.... rest of the race will no doubt be fun, stacks of guys here been racing since before I even hopped on a bike 15 yrs ago and they're the fast buggas so they can have the race but I'm looking for a good hit of adrenalin on the grid mate :D

[Johnny]

:ayyy:

Look forward to hearing how it all goes mate ( Im sure youll do fine though), seeing asthough I cant be there to see it..

[clarkey]

you can do it.

What are you gonna use now Eh .......7 or the blade :confused1::lmao:

[sbutler]

I'd love to have a go in the Retro class. By looking that the times I could go ok.
But the age old problem..Ive run out of MONEY:storm:

[j-rad]

Was hoping to make round 1 at OP but not so keen.....well keen to do it, financially not so keen :)

Got a bit of much needed practice in mind and Race Logic booked so am looking at Rnd 27/28 june, bike clutch now sorted thanks to SFBGlen (really do need to change that username :D ) now going over the bike, removing the camera gear/wires, bought a bunch of split pins for the lock wire jobs > gotta bed in the new clutch so will take the bike to StuntSkills 15 May and also practice some race starts which I guess is hard to practice at a track day......(yes after giving the clutch a bit of time LOL)

Booked accomodation for 5/6/7 June for those track days...eagerly waiting to book 2 of the 3 track days though Jason mentioned the FX guys would be practising 8th so would be good to TRY and follow some of them but I don't know I can afford the full 3 days so hopefully a few show up on the sat/sun to have a blat :)

So Jason are we still racing to crack into the 1:38-9's somewhere? or have you already cracked it?? :D and if so can i see the data :D :D :lmao:

j

[WET4URacing]

What are you gonna use now Eh .......7 or the blade :confused1::lmao:


the 7 in retro and maybe sbk or the 10 in sbk.

[sbutler]

the 7 in retro and maybe sbk or the 10 in sbk.

Do both on the 7 that should turn a few heads!!:ayyy:

[clarkey]

the 7 in retro and maybe sbk or the 10 in sbk.

i figured have a crack at the 7 just for shits n giggles

[jasonbw]

yeah mate, the race is on..you got my latest data, June, we'll go nuts out there and see :D

[j-rad]

yeah mate, the race is on..you got my latest data, June, we'll go nuts out there and see :D

yeh I don't seem to have a program to open that file but know the time but would be interesting to see if how you got there was any different to how I did, those 2 laps are pretty close. . . :ayyy:

[Stu23]

If I can get my bike back ill be at the OP round, but I wont have ridden it so will be more of a practice i think :(

[Wattie]

depending if i get a new bike soon, i may miss a round or 2 but.

need to decide how much to spend and what to buy too. :(

roady gone :)

[WET4URacing]

i have a ZX10 05 sittin here almost ready for the track. its stock with race glass. its a RWO and can be rego'd but have no road gear. $7K

[jasonbw]

Good bike for the 6hr series Wetty...

P.s. The race is on tomorrow, nice weather forecast too.

[j-rad]

Good bike for the 6hr series Wetty...

P.s. The race is on tomorrow, nice weather forecast too.

all the best mate, wish I was there with ya!!!

[Mrs Mozz]

So Jason??? How was it,? C'mon tell us about your day.

[jasonbw]

:D Had a ball.... absolute ball... never realised how much more fun a race day is than a trackday... no Clerk of Course guys yelling at you for close passing :), and above all you have a goal... on a trackday you circulate, big deal if a guy passes you... well in a race he then becomes a real target.. and it's a whole new world... so much fun.

Results.. I hit my laptime goal doing a 1:15.1 which was cool, I ended up getting a bloody trophy.. can you believe it! got 2nd place overall out of the D grade riders. The field was around 25 or so, but the best I managed was a 7th place... or was it 6th.. not sure.. but it was incredible.

I highly recommend anyone thinking trackdays are fun but missing something... just jump into racing at the enxt EC round and see how you take to the action.

I'm uploading a youtube video of the final race (6 laps of Oran park)... unbelieveable fun!

[clarkey]

:D Had a ball.... absolute ball... never realised how much more fun a race day is than a trackday... no Clerk of Course guys yelling at you for close passing :), and above all you have a goal... on a trackday you circulate, big deal if a guy passes you... well in a race he then becomes a real target.. and it's a whole new world... so much fun.

Results.. I hit my laptime goal doing a 1:15.1 which was cool, I ended up getting a bloody trophy.. can you believe it! got 2nd place overall out of the D grade riders. The field was around 25 or so, but the best I managed was a 7th place... or was it 6th.. not sure.. but it was incredible.

I highly recommend anyone thinking trackdays are fun but missing something... just jump into racing at the enxt EC round and see how you take to the action.

I'm uploading a youtube video of the final race (6 laps of Oran park)... unbelieveable fun!

Congrats jase, well earned and deserved:ayyy:, hats off too you :clap:

[Mrs Mozz]

:clap::clap::clap:Good on you, and a trophy too.:dancesmiley: 2nd overall is pretty good for your first time out I'd say:ayyy:

[jasonbw]

:D Thanks... as soon as I heard I got a trophy I thought my kid would be stoked... he always asks when I go to a trackday if I 'won':D I keep disappointing him.. but at least there's a trophy now :D hehehehe
P.s. 2nd in the D grades (about 10-15 riders), the best overall finish out of the four races I could manage was 7th or 6th. There are still FAR faster riders out ther (and not out there!)

P.p.s. ANYONE thinking they might like racing... really have to do it, even if it's just once!

[Captain]

Well done Jason, well done mate. Your kids aren't the only ones that are proud of you :ayyy:

[jonoZRX]

That's a good time Jason! Awesome work getting a trophy in your first ever race :ayyy:

[jasonbw]

Thanks Captain, I can wait till have have a few more RATs out there. It's true that in racing you just simply drop 2 seconds off your time. It's great fun!

You know that feeling at a trackday when you hook up with a mate on track and you both just go for it... you pull into the pits yelling how that was the best fun... every race is like that.... amazing fun.... I got beaten after a dice with one guy, on the cool down lap he turns around and gives me a huge thumbs up then he punches the air... we were playing for 8th position... nowhere near a top spot, but god its so much fun no matter what place your going for! The guy didn't know me either... the club racing is just great fun with great people.

EDIT: Cheers Gaz!!! :)

[Stu23]

Hiya Jason

Welcome to the world of club racing :) Its fantastic isnt it hahaha absoloutley mad...what did you think to your 1st ever start as you hurtled into turn 1 !!!! My starts were so bad on each race the grid row behind shot past every time...hahaha oops mind have been on track for 4 months so thats my excuse im sticking to it....

Can i say a big thanks to Tex ( TJ Motorcycle ) for getting my bike running, managed to pick it up Friday Night !!! ...its not 100 % but it ran and got me round quite enicely thanks again Tex..

Ended up overall 2nd in clubsport 600, with a win, two 2nd's and a 3rd...met a few Rats , Dean was smiling his head off :) A good fun day :) all safe and sound

Cheers

Stu

[Mrs Mozz]

Congrats to you too then Stu:ayyy::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Johnny]

Congrats JasonBw and Stu, well done guys :clap:

[jasonbw]

Way to go Stu !!!!! Awesome results.... how do I express to others just how good it is... and most of the RATs here are more than quick enough to have a great race!!

[Captain]

I'd like to Jase, you know I would, and after reading your comments all the more so.
I'm just, well, I'm afraid ......... not afraid to race, I'm afraid that the chances of a (serious) fall are increased in a race.
How does the mrs feel about it? Don't answer if you don't wish to, if it's too personal a question etc.

[j-rad]

You got a fight on your hands for a trophy for Rnd 2 mate :D *jokes*

Congrats mate, very very jealous that I couldn't get there.....but stoked to hear you did so well! There may be hope for me yet hahahaha

I spent half the day tpoday practising race starts at StuntSkills. Matt Mingay and I had a few good runs with his 'stunt' Harley but the GSXR had it well in hand :D :D

New clutch feels great! Good work SFBGlen!

j


Way to go Stu !!!!! Awesome results.... how do I express to others just how good it is... and most of the RATs here are more than quick enough to have a great race!!

[Stu23]

I agree, there are more than enough guys on this site who could race and not worry about there times........better not encourage too many of them though.......otherwise life could start to become even harder at the track :) kidding !!! guys and girls...just have a go.... you will love it, and the st gorge club is so friendly, cant get much better at club level :)

My opinion on crashing Captain, well for a start the riders who race are generally better equiped than those at track days re reactions and race craft so can be safer than people you meet at td's..... unless of course your battling at the pointy end and pushing limits then its up to you and what you are willing to risk. Donr forget there is much fun to be had battling for 10th or even 20th place too......

Stu

[gazujc]

I'd like to Jase, you know I would, and after reading your comments all the more so.
I'm just, well, I'm afraid ......... not afraid to race, I'm afraid that the chances of a (serious) fall are increased in a race.
How does the mrs feel about it? Don't answer if you don't wish to, if it's too personal a question etc.

I don't race nor ride track days Captain, so by all means disregard any of my comments but having officiated at race meetings for a few years I can honestly say that serious injury or death is extremely rare. Yes it does occur just as it can riding on the road butin racing terms I woudl actually suggest that the risk of serious injury is actually reduced to that when riding on the road.

I say this as the old adage that a race track has room is correct and it is uncommon that a rider does actually impact a wall or other object and it is the impact that generally will cause the injury. Whilst I have seen riders hit walls (OP/EC) and whilst I have worked meetings where guys have been hospitalised for lengthy periods it is uncommon.

You also need to look att he fact that medical assistance is on hand and there are minimum requirements for those medical personnel which means that generally should an incident occur, highly trained people will be at your side within minutes.

IMO, in terms of injury risk racing is no more dangerous than road riding.







Garry

[jasonbw]

It was a hurdle for my missus too... there was a strict covenant about not racing set in concrete along with my balls. I figured 6 months ago there's no use living if she has that much control and booked in the race meet :D Now about my kids... well, I'd hate to do something that makes their life harder but I figure better I be a happy Dad who get's to do what he loves, then a grumpy dad on a viscous circle of depressing and repressing problems:D

Anyway, that aside, I was worried about that, until the whole environment felt jsut like a trackday... but friendlier and happier! (no joke)... actually theres some good info which I should start a new thread on.. I'll write it up tonight... suffice to say... it's worth the (mostly controllable) risk.

[Captain]

Garry if you've been there, you've seen it so your advice is more than valid. I agree 100% re track being safer than on the road, for sure this is where I prefer to go fast, without a doubt. I meant the safety of track days v. racing.

Jason, thanks for that also. Each to their own of course, sometimes I can't believe that I'm actually taking the bike to a track, having so much fun, more than I ever imagined and sure, I'm interested in racing but I have a fortunate life, so many interesting things to do so that IF I don't get to racing, well, it's not like I haven't reached my life-long dream and sink into depression.

Curious about the 'friendlier and happier' comments too. Any idea why? Jeezus, how can you not be happy on a track day? Looking forward to your promised 'write up' :ayyy:

[jasonbw]

:D Going to start it now, just really want those who aren't reading the racing thread to want to dive in. Mate you'd be alarmed at how you can pretty much choose your risk level!

While I'm yakking have a look at the last race of the day - there are 4 races, each one determines your next grid position, man my starts were horrendous each race which made for some great experience passing riders.

Heres the video from Saturday. (Crap quality, now uploading a better version (brighter and higher quality).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGyh2AZruSY

[Stu23]

Fantastic Video Jason, hahaha your starts were as bad as mine :) hehehe might have just as well started a row or 2 behind, I got stick all day today for my crap starts !!! Nice to see you having a dice with Craig...good stuff :)

Stu

[Falco]

Wow, those first half a dozen blokes didnt stick around.


Well done JBW, looks like fun. :ayyy:

[WET4URacing]

Thanks Captain, I can wait till have have a few more RATs out there. It's true that in racing you just simply drop 2 seconds off your time. It's great fun!

You know that feeling at a trackday when you hook up with a mate on track and you both just go for it... you pull into the pits yelling how that was the best fun... every race is like that.... amazing fun.... I got beaten after a dice with one guy, on the cool down lap he turns around and gives me a huge thumbs up then he punches the air... we were playing for 8th position... nowhere near a top spot, but god its so much fun no matter what place your going for! The guy didn't know me either... the club racing is just great fun with great people.

EDIT: Cheers Gaz!!! :)


JB must correct you there . YOU were not racing for 8th you were racing for position in your class.CONGRATS. If you were a bit earlier(a few years or 2) you would have been in your own race , D grade yoost to have there own ding dong . I remember the 1st meeting every year we all yoost to file to the top of the pits at the creek and watch the Novice race . 2 lap dash. fukin awsome.

[jasonbw]

So if enough join up then we'll have a D grade race again :D sweeeet.

Thanks for letting me through in that last race (in the video), that let me challenge the other guy for 7th spot.

P.s. I've a lotta work to do, the next highest D grader was 10 seconds in front of me after just those 6 laps! I've officially been smoked! :D :D :D Awesome day!

[WET4URacing]

my tyre was about to take a shit. thort it would be ok but not. i just needed to finish to win B grade, didnt need to get in the way. but if i'd known you had a cam i would've . good footage. u need to spend some coin on your engine dude

[jasonbw]

Engine's fine, I've got err... ballast issues I'm sorting :D

I've got a number of laps behind you captured, doing up a clip for you so you can see your lines etc will yell out when done.... you make your bike so wide! :D

[WET4URacing]

LOL. fark mann its 11yr old . we all get wider when we get older :)

[jasonbw]

:D heh heh

[Dean93]

Ditto to all the good comments. A great day.

Stu, I love club racing as well! A great environment for us to have an adrenalin shot and experience some competition.

Captain, never met you but I can tell you that racing is safer than track days in one important respect......qualifying ensures that you're gridded with guys who are the same speed as you rather than sharing track with guys who may be alot faster/reckless on track days. You can spend years doing track days but as jasonbw has said, a race will pick your times up.

Cheers