R6 vs 600rr

[clarkey]

Whats the general consensus...? Any one ridden these too back to back in anger , 06 models and up-
From what i can understand R6 wild power, slightly peaky , quick steering requiring to be ridden on pipe,
RR easy torque curve, neutral and well balanced , great brakes typical honda.
Now the real question , Yes the Honda would be easier to ride but how hard are the r6,s to master or are we talikin highside territory or just hard work??

[RUSSELL]

im supprised you are even asking.... stay true.

but it would be very interesting to ride them back to back for shits and giggles

[seals]

if u looking at the CBR i would look at a 05 up or 07 up, as the 05 was the model update and then 07 was the next.

cheers - fugly racing inc

[clarkey]

if u looking at the CBR i would look at a 05 up or 07 up, as the 05 was the model update and then 07 was the next.

cheers - fugly racing inc

Cheers Fugly, Love the Honda and Im looking for a cbr 07 or up-hens teeth though :(the r6 are quite easy to find, cheaper too with plenty of spares

[Lopeman]

I have ridden both several times, 07 R6 and 07 600RR, in my opinion it depends what you will be using it for mainly. Track use only - R6, 90% track and 10% Road R6, anything less than about 40% track get the 600RR. The R6 has bags of power up top but feels very average down low, 600RR is by far a better street bike but can still shread on the track just as well. More comfterbale to.

I'l pick the 600RR any day of the week, but thats just my 2c

[Fezz]

Is it for a dedicated track bike or mostly for the road? If it's for the track you've only got to look at the amount of R6's in Superstock and nearly all the front runners are on them.

[Birdman45]

That's only coz the R6 is winning most of the SS races also, you'll always see that in S/stock, whatever the main series bike is that wins, everyone in S/stock runs out and gets them coz they must be the best. LOL, not saying they're not, it's just not always the case.

[slow bro]

I think you know the answer without even asking Clarkey.

[Jake]

Daytona. No, wait, what about a 954? :n:

Just gonna have to ride them to see which one whispers dirty things to ya :ayyy:

[Zee]

I doubt you'll be disappointed in either

[clarkey]

Daytona. No, wait, what about a 954? :n:

Just gonna have to ride them to see which one whispers dirty things to ya :ayyy:

Mate 954 is till great , but wont let me in with the 600 boys to play :(

[Captain]

I don't think there's that much difference between the two, to be honest, at least on track. I ride the RR, and Specs the R6 and we've had some great battles on track. I would choose depending on what you wnat it for; if it's 90%+ track use, then probably the R6 (although most magazine reviews put the RR above the R6 anyhow), but if you do some road riding then definetely the RR. I test rode both, and no way I could live with the R6 on the road, too much work, all the power is up top.

[Johnny]

Clarkey, Id reckon the R6 would be much more suited to you ;)

[Mr.Ed]

I don't think there's that much difference between the two, to be honest, at least on track. I ride the RR, and Specs the R6 and we've had some great battles on track. I would choose depending on what you wnat it for; if it's 90%+ track use, then probably the R6 (although most magazine reviews put the RR above the R6 anyhow), but if you do some road riding then definetely the RR. I test rode both, and no way I could live with the R6 on the road, too much work, all the power is up top.
Specs' R6 is an 05, a bit more torque down low when compared to the 06+... great bike nonetheless.

[zRoYz]

Simple buy whatever you can get at the best price, both are chalk & cheese.

[Captain]

..... chalk & cheese.

You've got them confused with the gixxer zRoYz ...

[seals]

I think you know the answer without even asking Clarkey.

he does R6 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[zRoYz]

You've got them confused with the gixxer zRoYz ...

Funny thing is the only gixxer I would buy is the 600, haven't read a bad thing about them, they mightn't be at the cutting edge in racing but then again either am I :)

[SmiddyR6]

If it was head to head, it would come down to the rider to pull the bike threw...

[Jake]

Mate 954 is till great , but wont let me in with the 600 boys to play :(
You're going racing?

[DanFX]

R6 is a race bike without the mirrors ;)

[Marcus]

gsxr 600. Stupid easy to ride

[clarkey]

Well i just walked outta honda dealer and i gotta say two things..............wow they handle , but where the f@$# is the motor- I swear my worked rm 250 was more frightnen:(. It was soooooooooo smooth , beautifully balanced but i did the entire loop in 1st n second gear.It never really got peaky so i can see why they are so confidence inspiring @ the track- i guess these cc loss would take some serious gettin used too as i must be a lazy torque addict:hatter:

Now i totally realise i require two bikes-

On a brighter note i gave the cbr1000 08 a shot ..............holy F$#@@ what a weapon.........It would take a while to come to grips with but what a package, Handled almost as inspiring as the 600 , (but forks felt so much better despite the extra weight) but engine...Nothing i have ever ridden even comes close, If the R1 is faster than that I dont want one :hatter:

Im off to buy flowers for the mrs...........this is gonna need some convincing:lmao:

[slow bro]

Good luck budy.

[Turtle]

It seems R6 riders seem to get "Spat-off" more......

[Captain]

, but where the f@$# is the motor- I swear my worked rm 250 was more frightnen:(. It was soooooooooo smooth , beautifully balanced but i did the entire loop in 1st n second gear.It never really got peaky so i can see why they are so confidence inspiring @ the track- i guess these cc loss would take some serious gettin used too as i must be a lazy torque addict

I think the bulk of the power is in the middle of the rev-range (in a manner of speaking) which is what makes the bike something you can live with on the street. Unlike the R6, where it's all up top and sure, it's more impressive all at once like that but at the end of the day it's no faster.

[Nuff]

If you want more torque in 600 and you are not scared of triumphs give 675 a test ride. With few mods my bike kept up with 1000s at OP last weekend and has been able to put on a fair bit of distance on Lucas's cbr600rr (I think 05 model) and Spec's 05 R6.

[Turtle]

If you want more torque in 600 and you are not scared of triumphs give 675 a test ride. With few mods my bike kept up with 1000s at OP last weekend and has been able to put on a fair bit of distance on Lucas's cbr600rr (I think 05 model) and Spec's 05 R6.

Is that the rider or the bike ??

[Mr.Ed]

Is that the rider or the bike ??
the bike mate... definitely the bike!:lmao:
Just kidding Nuff, but you have to admit that your bike is waaaaay faster than any other 600. I've seen you pull away from an old R1 in the straight at OP (fat bastard was riding it though) and that was on your first 675. The second one is not a stock 675 anymore...:ayyy:

[Nuff]

Is that the rider or the bike ??

The rider me = crap, the bike can put on fair bit of distance on the straights and out of corners, but I'm still around 10seconds slower than Specs around OP. I should post up the video tomorrow of me being followed by Specs and Lucas001 while they were showing off to the camera.

[clarkey]

I think the bulk of the power is in the middle of the rev-range (in a manner of speaking) which is what makes the bike something you can live with on the street. Unlike the R6, where it's all up top and sure, it's more impressive all at once like that but at the end of the day it's no faster.

did you change gearing cap? pipe ? Where is this power you speak of :lmao::lmao: though handling i would love ...........Is there a big bore kit ?

[Turtle]

the bike mate... definitely the bike!:lmao:
Just kidding Nuff, but you have to admit that your bike is waaaaay faster than any other 600. I've seen you pull away from an old R1 in the straight at OP (fat bastard was riding it though) and that was on your first 675. The second one is not a stock 675 anymore...:ayyy:

Hows it go against a GIXXER 750 ??? 675.....Thats halfway between....should beat a 600, but i reckon the Gixxer750 would SMASH IT !!!

[Nuff]

the bike mate... definitely the bike!:lmao:
Just kidding Nuff, but you have to admit that your bike is waaaaay faster than any other 600. I've seen you pull away from an old R1 in the straight at OP (fat bastard was riding it though) and that was on your first 675. The second one is not a stock 675 anymore...:ayyy:

No offence taken, since it's true. :lmao:

My current bike has full TI arrow exhaust and 520 chain with +2 sprocket on the rear. It still need to be dyno tuned for some extra HP.

[Captain]

did you change gearing cap? pipe ? Where is this power you speak of :lmao::lmao: though handling i would love ...........Is there a big bore kit ?
I don't speak of any particular 'power' ... it's a 600 mate. Purely the distribution of what's there. How long did you ride it for again?

[Nuff]

Hows it go against a GIXXER 750 ??? 675.....Thats halfway between....should beat a 600, but i reckon the Gixxer750 would SMASH IT !!!

I think they are pretty equal, my bike looses at the top end, so it will lose to a 1000 (and 750) at EC, once it gets to around 200km/h the 1000s start flying away. That was without the exhaust and sprocket, so maybe I will be able to keep up till 210km/h+

[Turtle]

I think they are pretty equal, my bike looses at the top end, so it will lose to a 1000 (and 750) at EC, once it gets to around 200km/h the 1000s start flying away. That was without the exhaust and sprocket, so maybe I will be able to keep up till 210km/h+

Well Bigdog rides a 750 Gixxer and he's doesn't start to run out of steam at 210, i can asure you....

[Mr.Ed]

It would definitely beat a stock 750... His bike has more than a few mods done to it and the 750 is geared way too tall. I'd say that in a long enough straight the 750 would have him (more hp, longer gearing) but at OP it wouldn't stand a chance either. Lucas001 (600) runs a 520 chain and a -1/+2 set up and he said Nuff was putting 2secs on him on the straight alone. I wasn't there so can't confirm or deny it... but there's a video coming out soon and it should clarify it a little.

[Nuff]

I don't speak of any particular 'power' ... it's a 600 mate. Purely the distribution of what's there. How long did you ride it for again?

I've to say, I like the cbr600 better than r6. I didn't like the peaky power and the wooden brake lever. But for someone who's a better rider than me and can keep the engine on the I can see how the 06-08 R6 would be a weapon.

[Turtle]

It would definitely beat a stock 750... His bike has more than a few mods done to it and the 750 is geared way too tall. I'd say that in a long enough straight the 750 would have him (more hp, longer gearing) but at OP it wouldn't stand a chance either. Lucas001 runs a 520 chain and a -1/+2 set up and he said Nuff was putting 2secs on him on the straight alone. I wasn't there so can't confirm or deny... but there's a video coming out soon and it should clarify it a little.

Well if you are talking about a particular track then thats got nothing to do with how qik the bike is.......a smaller cc bike will be quicker on a tighter track...like the back section at EC is quicker on a 600 then a 1000....

[Mr.Ed]

I meant OP's straight... sorry! Because it's not long enough for the 750's gearing. EC would be more of a challenge.

[zRoYz]

If you want more torque in 600 and you are not scared of triumphs give 675 a test ride. With few mods my bike kept up with 1000s at OP last weekend and has been able to put on a fair bit of distance on Lucas's cbr600rr (I think 05 model) and Spec's 05 R6.

on track that can be very deceiving due to entry speed onto the straight. the only real way to prove it is drag strip or all same gear roll on start then go hell for leather at a given start point. even then rider input counts for so much with reaction time were they shift, there weight, etc.

for us av joe's any sports bike is a weapon.

[Nuff]

Well Bigdog rides a 750 Gixxer and he's doesn't start to run out of steam at 210, i can asure you....

It still keeps pulling past 210, but no where near as fast as 1000s. 750 have more power, I can't argue there and it will start pulling away from me eventually. But how much depends on the length of the main straight.

[Nuff]

on track that can be very deceiving due to entry speed onto the straight. the only real way is to prove it is drag strip or all same gear roll on start then go hell for leather at a given start point. even then rider input counts for so much with reaction time were they shify, there weight, etc.

for us av joe's any sports bike is a weapon.

That's true, I only judge it based on a video I have. Also as a side note, Lucas and Specs are lighter than me by about 5 and 10kg respectively. If it makes any difference.

[Mr.Ed]

on track that can be very deceiving due to entry speed onto the straight. the only real way to prove it is drag strip or all same gear roll on start then go hell for leather at a given start point. even then rider input counts for so much with reaction time were they shift, there weight, etc.

for us av joe's any sports bike is a weapon.
True. Very true. What we failed to mention is that both Lucas001 and Specs were lapping the track almost 10 secs faster than Nuff and still losing badly on the straight. So either he's awesome on the last turn or that little bike has some serious mambo... My money is on the latter! :lmao:

[zRoYz]

True. Very true. What we failed to mention is that both Lucas001 and Specs were lapping the track almost 10 secs faster than Nuff and still losing badly on the straight. So either he's awesome on the last turn or that little bike has some serious mambo... My money is on the latter! :lmao:

you might be surprised it has allot to do with how fast the 675 gets onto the straight as there 3 cyl config would have better drive out of corners like V4/V2 do. this is the reason the 09 R1 is creating allot of hype with it's config. ever sat behind a 1098 (V2) out of a corner & watch it drive there like sling shots.

[clarkey]

I don't speak of any particular 'power' ... it's a 600 mate. Purely the distribution of what's there. How long did you ride it for again?

Round thirty min cap, long enough to realise if i dropped two gears she was much more responsive- id say ( Correct me if im incorrect ) live begins round 9??

[Mr.Ed]

ever sat behind a 1098 (V2) out of a corner & watch it drive there like sling shots.
I have...:drool::drool:

[Lucas001]

nuff's bike is a missile, my bike accelerates faster than captain's in the exit of the last turn but just by milliseconds but the 675 was pulling away a loooot faster!! no panic as I knew 100mts later I would be slamming my brakes to match his :lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Captain]

.....my bike accelerates faster than captain's in the exit of the last turn but just by milliseconds .....
It's not the bike's fault ... the poor girl; she's got me on her back :o

[tzkev]

In late 07 I test rode a 07 yamaha R6 and also test rode the 07 Honda CBR600RR and i now own an 07 CBR600RR, and i love it. Only mod i had to make was to upgrade the front brake lines as the stock lines just didn't cut it.

[Captain]

+1 tzkev, I did the same :ayyy:

[Turtle]

It's not the bike's fault ... the poor girl; she's got me on her back :o

Are you feeling a little "Large" Jules ???

[Captain]

Just a bit mate.

[Turtle]

Just a bit mate.

Get that MTB and come with us......

[Lucas001]

my gearing helps -1+2

[Mr.Ed]

Time to go -1/+3 at OP then?:lmao: Gotta keep that Daytona in check, mate!

[Lucas001]

-2+4 and I still cant keep up.. I will wheelie a lot tho! LOL

[Johnny]

Just a bit mate.

Thats not true Captain. You look of average build for your size mate, and you are tallish.. :ayyy:


Me, Ive never had to worry about that, its the opposite for me actually. I just cant put weight on if I tried, and I have tried, believe me. Have recently realized one thing though, size is no indication of fitness level. I ride a pushy regularly now ( thanx to Clarkey) and realize just how unfit I was, fitness its getting better, but at my age I dont think it will get much better, especially considering I smoke like a f****g chimney :dohsmiley:

As Turtle has said, geta pushy mate, they really do wonders, well it has for me anyway..

[Nuff]

Here's the above mentioned video, excuse the youtube quality.

Click on the high definition option:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0YydC1UoEE

[Mr.Ed]

I can't see that option... vimeo no more?

[James]

Amazing the difference between the 675 and the 600s as you hit the straight :hatter:

[Nuff]

Amazing the difference between the 675 and the 600s as you hit the straight :hatter:

Now I just need to learn how to go around corners :lmao:

[Mr.Ed]

Amazing the difference between the 675 and the 600s as you hit the straight :hatter:
what did I say?? :lmao:

[Nuff]

I can't see that option... vimeo no more?

Give youtube another couple of hours, I think it's being a bit slow at the time of day.