Crash Macquarie Pass

[ozimoto]

A rider on a new Fireblade highsided of Macquarie Pass yesterday and was stopped by a Log on the way down. The paper says he was from Berry, but I have met him and he comes from the inner city to ride the pass most weekends.http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2924/464014.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=464014.jpg)
A motorcyclist catapulted over the edge of Macquarie Pass yesterday was saved by a log that broke his fall.

The 44-year-old Berry man suffered back, leg and shoulder injuries during the incident, believed to have occurred after he lost control on an oil slick.
The injured man was travelling up Macquarie Pass with a companion rider just after 11.30am when the accident occurred.

He rounded a sharp bend before being speared from his red Honda Fireblade over the edge of the pass and several metres down an embankment.

One of the first on the scene, a 59-year-old Sydney man who was also on a motorcycle, rendered first aid and made the man comfortable until emergency services arrived.

I think the the paper has the rider and the guy doing first aid mixed up.His mate with him was from Berry.

[Turtle]

Bugger....hope he has a speedy recovery

[Captain]

Bugger alright ... could have happened to any one of us.

[triumph]

thats not a good thing . been hearing bad reports about the pass lately .

[zRoYz]

Bugger alright ... could have happened to any one of us.

Yes & No, the pass gets diesel dumped on it all the time from trucks & in most cases isn't just a blob somewhere but there will be a trail. It shows up on the road easily in dry & wet conditions so if your alert you should be able to spot it before mishap. The only time you wont see it is if your following somebody to closely especially a cage.

[clarkey]

at least hes ok, a lot of not so good outcomes lately:(

[ozimoto]

Yes & No, the pass gets diesel dumped on it all the time from trucks & in most cases isn't just a blob somewhere but there will be a trail. It shows up on the road easily in dry & wet conditions so if your alert you should be able to spot it before mishap. The only time you wont see it is if your following somebody to closely especially a cage.

Yea to much diesel dropped on these mountain roads lately and cow shit flowing from local cattle trucks that seems twice as slippery as diesel.

[frostyscurse]

Yes & No, the pass gets diesel dumped on it all the time from trucks & in most cases isn't just a blob somewhere but there will be a trail. It shows up on the road easily in dry & wet conditions so if your alert you should be able to spot it before mishap. The only time you wont see it is if your following somebody to closely especially a cage.

Easy to say after the event I'd reckon.... could have been the first bend on the fuel tank side for all we'd know..... could have been any one of us indeed.....

[Kat00]

Highside on the pass...... regardless of the circumstances, be luck to get out of that one.

[gazujc]

Yes & No, the pass gets diesel dumped on it all the time from trucks & in most cases isn't just a blob somewhere but there will be a trail. It shows up on the road easily in dry & wet conditions so if your alert you should be able to spot it before mishap. The only time you wont see it is if your following somebody to closely especially a cage.


To true Roy but it isn't always the trucks dropping stuff and it isn't always diesel that gets dropped (nor oil, nor fuel) but I also have been able to spot it early enough to avoid or correct as necessary.

In my experience when riding that road the worst culprits are the tradies in utes and/or the person carry rubbish of kind in trailers or uncovered in utes/flatbed. I have lost count of the time when I have seen drums loose and fluid falling out, or objects falling off these vehicles.

As for this incident the article in the paper suggested that the rider mentioned that the accident felt like he hit oil, it then went on to the usual facts that MacPass is an accident blackspot for bikes in particular.


A question for most that is kind of related.

I ride (and always have) with a clear visor (well goggles now I have the dirt bike) and have often wondered if coloured visors can lead to distortion of road surface conditions. And teh reason for the question is that most of the accidents I have seen on MacPass have involved riders with tinted visors.






Garry

[frostyscurse]

Yes & No, the pass gets diesel dumped on it all the time from trucks & in most cases isn't just a blob somewhere but there will be a trail. It shows up on the road easily in dry & wet conditions so if your alert you should be able to spot it before mishap. The only time you wont see it is if your following somebody to closely especially a cage.

Apologise for the double post, however, after reading again.... "THE ONLY TIME YOU WONT SEE IT IS IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING SOMEBODY TOO CLOSELY...." Are you serious.... is making assumption that it is the riders fault the norm with you??? There is no detail in the report that the rider was responsable, or able to avoid the situation.... what the fuck is with that??? And then to go on and bring "CAGERS" into it... The only thing that "SHOWS UP EASILY" in all of this is arrogance!!!!

[ozimoto]

[QUOTE=gazujc;184143]To true Roy but it isn't always the trucks dropping stuff and it isn't always diesel that gets dropped (nor oil, nor fuel) but I also have been able to spot it early enough to avoid or correct as necessary.

In my experience when riding that road the worst culprits are the tradies in utes and/or the person carry rubbish of kind in trailers or uncovered in utes/flatbed. I have lost count of the time when I have seen drums loose and fluid falling out, or objects falling off these vehicles.

As for this incident the article in the paper suggested that the rider mentioned that the accident felt like he hit oil, it then went on to the usual facts that MacPass is an accident blackspot for bikes in particular.


A question for most that is kind of related.

I ride (and always have) with a clear visor (well goggles now I have the dirt bike) and have often wondered if coloured visors can lead to distortion of road surface conditions. And teh reason for the question is that most of the accidents I have seen on MacPass have involved riders with tinted visors.



Yea I flip up my tinted visor on roads like this because of the distortion.

[jace]

Yes & No, the pass gets diesel dumped on it all the time from trucks & in most cases isn't just a blob somewhere but there will be a trail. It shows up on the road easily in dry & wet conditions so if your alert you should be able to spot it before mishap. The only time you wont see it is if your following somebody to closely especially a cage.

How are you going to see a good size spill across your line on the other side of a blind corner wen you are traveling at speed & committed to holding your line ?

Dodging a stick or a spill a foot wide at the last second on a blind corner is one thing & even that takes a bit of luck, but if the spill is across the whole or most of your lane you have a very small chance of avoiding it.

The fact is, if you are going at a good pace around blind corners you are simply taking a punt every time. Dont fool your selfs. I just try not to think about it. It ruins the fun....:D

[Col]

I wish the dude a speedy recovery

[dazzler]

yup your on the money there Jace:ayyy:

blind corners are exactly that, blind!!

its just luck there is nothing there,this time, but maybe next who knows!!!




bar racing for life

[dilbee]

why do you believe what the media tell you? You only get half the truth if that. Sounds like that bloke is lucky he didn't end up at the bottom.

[zRoYz]

Apologise for the double post, however, after reading again.... "THE ONLY TIME YOU WONT SEE IT IS IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING SOMEBODY TOO CLOSELY...." Are you serious.... is making assumption that it is the riders fault the norm with you??? There is no detail in the report that the rider was responsable, or able to avoid the situation.... what the fuck is with that??? And then to go on and bring "CAGERS" into it... The only thing that "SHOWS UP EASILY" in all of this is arrogance!!!!

:confused1: do you see ghosts because you sure did read allot of stuff in my post that wasn't there.

My post was a answer to this post:

Bugger alright ... could have happened to any one of us.

Which is this bellow:

Yes & No, the pass gets diesel dumped on it all the time from trucks & in most cases isn't just a blob somewhere but there will be a trail. It shows up on the road easily in dry & wet conditions so if your alert you should be able to spot it before mishap. The only time you wont see it is if your following somebody to closely especially a cage.

Could you point out where I said the rider was at fault & even diesel was the cause of the accident??

(reply to Captain)Yes & No, the pass gets diesel dumped on it all the time from trucks & in most cases isn't just a blob somewhere but there will be a trail.

So your saying this doesn't happen, I don't see any mention there it was to blame, just a statement what happens on the pass frequently

It shows up on the road easily in dry & wet conditions so if your alert you should be able to spot it before mishap.

This is a statement about diesel & note I said "should be able to spot"

The only time you wont see it is if your following somebody to closely especially a cage.

Again a statement about the increased likely hood for not seeing diesel on the road or anything else for that matter, still nothing stating anything relating to the posted accident.

My post was information not an attack at the rider laying blame as I wasn't there so how do I know what happened, it is purely my observations from riding the pass.

[dazzler]

so controlled and calm there zROYz..... very unlike you!!!:lmao::lmao:

[zRoYz]

How are you going to see a good size spill across your line on the other side of a blind corner wen you are traveling at speed & committed to holding your line ?

Dodging a stick or a spill a foot wide at the last second on a blind corner is one thing & even that takes a bit of luck, but if the spill is across the whole or most of your lane you have a very small chance of avoiding it.

The fact is, if you are going at a good pace around blind corners you are simply taking a punt every time. Dont fool your selfs. I just try not to think about it. It ruins the fun....:D

My statement was about how diesel on the pass which is dropped by trucks mainly due to full tanks or bad fitting tank caps which happens due to the extremely tight corners & grade of incline. When this happens it will leave a line where truck has traveled not just a puddle on the road so you normally have warning even on blind corners there is diesel on the road before you are even tipping into a corner.


so controlled and calm there zROYz..... very unlike you!!!:lmao::lmao:

I didn't post to lay blame on the rider, the thread is about a fallen rider which is bad whatever the cause which nobody knows but the rider. Flame wars in such a thread are unwarranted but if anybody would like to keep going start another thread & I'll be happy to let fly.

[dazzler]

:confused1: hmmmm.... i think he is on your side there Roy???

[zRoYz]

:confused1: hmmmm.... i think he is on your side there Roy???

Again no attack simply explaining what most spills are like on the pass & what jace has said is very true.

Anyway I hope the rider concerned has a complete recovery & is back out doing what I'm sure he enjoys like the rest of us.

[Captain]

zRoYz is right, as he did say yes and no. I think the point is valid, in that you need to keep a good lookout. Experience certainly counts; I forget the number of times young drivers/riders get into trouble, then they say 'there was nothing I could do to avoid it' yet in many cases it wouldn't have happened to me, as I wouldn't have put myself in that position.
The yes bit is obvious, we are human and we make mistakes. I admit I don't always watch the road closely enough, and sometimes if you run hot into a turn you might not have the time / skills to avoid a sudden oil slick (or diesel). Look at how many riders come off on track - even motoGP ones - when they hit spilled oil. If they can't avoid it, what chance do I have?

[_chado77]

oh fuck here we go again:dohsmiley:..im sensing da ja vu here and to think it on RATS this time..

diesel on the pass and the wannabe experts are on it againhttp://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/_chado77/poke-1.gifhttp://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/_chado77/hung.gif

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riders sounds lucky which is all good

[adendes]

oh fuck here we go again:dohsmiley:..im sensing da ja vu here and to think it on RATS this time..

diesel on the pass and the wannabe experts are on it againhttp://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/_chado77/poke-1.gifhttp://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/_chado77/hung.gif

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riders sounds lucky which is all good

:popcorn:

[WET4URacing]

:beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse:
no diesel on the track. track is much safer.

now who wants a fairing:)

[Turtle]

Wow....i can't leave you blokes alone for more than a couple of hours.....

[Mr.Ed]

:beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse:
no diesel on the track. track is much safer.

now who wants a fairing:)
It might be a good time to go onto the flame throwers market.:lmao:

[Wheelys]

Hey guys, just for some info in case anyones thinking of doing the nat park (south to Wollongong) in the near future, I took the muzzy for a run down there today and they are redoing the road in patches and are leaving one hell of a mess!!! The road itself has ALOT of shit all over it, may be a good idea to give the N/P a miss for a little while till they are done.

[Big Lunt]

Wow....i can't leave you blokes alone for more than a couple of hours.....

Unbelieveable but true......very entertaining never the less:popcorn::popcorn:

[Zee]

Highsided aye :confused1: on a spot of oil :confused1:.
Wouldn't have the front wheel gone over it first; therefore??? :stirthepot:

[tungsten77]

Sounds like a back protector will defintety be my next purchase. :). it could mean the difference between a few days off work and a lifetime off my feet and on wheels :Kat00:

[triumph]

Sounds like a back protector will defintety be my next purchase. :). it could mean the difference between a few days off work and a lifetime off my feet and on wheels :Kat00: having a back protector is a must . dont leave home without it .

[burlo53]

I agree with Zee.front washes out first.Iv'e done it ,no touch of brakes,just down.Sorry to hear he's hurt himself,but my thoughts are he was on the gas too hard and the rears kicked out and ,fuck,i'm gone!Done that too,over in a split second,but when you recall it,it's like slow motion.Anyway guys,it's not worth a shitfight amongst yourselves about.Just hope he's on it again soon.

[oldblade]

Yeap it's called Gravity and i am sure we have all done it.

This is my stop I'll get off

Hope he gets back on soon

[Dr freedom]

Bad luck for the fella being highsided.. sounds like he's still lucky to be here still.


Cheers for the netrider'esq laughs & captain obvious comments though :lmao: .. its been great :dohsmiley:

[frostyscurse]

:confused1: do you see ghosts because you sure did read allot of stuff in my post that wasn't there.

My post was a answer to this post:


Which is this bellow:


Could you point out where I said the rider was at fault & even diesel was the cause of the accident??

(reply to Captain)Yes & No, the pass gets diesel dumped on it all the time from trucks & in most cases isn't just a blob somewhere but there will be a trail.

So your saying this doesn't happen, I don't see any mention there it was to blame, just a statement what happens on the pass frequently

It shows up on the road easily in dry & wet conditions so if your alert you should be able to spot it before mishap.

This is a statement about diesel & note I said "should be able to spot"

The only time you wont see it is if your following somebody to closely especially a cage.

Again a statement about the increased likely hood for not seeing diesel on the road or anything else for that matter, still nothing stating anything relating to the posted accident.

My post was information not an attack at the rider laying blame as I wasn't there so how do I know what happened, it is purely my observations from riding the pass.

While I'm looking for ghosts, why don't you look at your original reply... It is unlike me to respond to something like this, however, when you contradict yourself so openly and then suggest later that you "will let fly" I feel I should again question your statements.....

I said you assumed....like it was riders fault... why.... well... Deisel, who said deisel???? and then " the ONLY time you dont see it unless you're too close"..... if you were not making assumptions, then what is the relevance of these statements???? I might suggest that the only time one highsides on the "Pass" is when they're pissed...... relative no!.... but after a story like that would you not think that an assumption or fact was being made??? You are naive... And to then state later that it is an increased likelyhood to miss deisel when travelling close to another vehicle, is a dumbing down of what you originally stated......
You know, I sincerely hope that none of us come to greif on the pass due to oil or deisel. or anything...... but specially you.... because hopefully you will be able to walk away and not be stretchered, as you realise that it can happen to any one us......

[zRoYz]

My original reply is what you have quoted, I can't see were I have contradicted myself but really couldn't be bothered going on about it, you have your view of what I said good for you.

Due to there being 634 views of this thread since my post & your the only one that has interpreted my post your way feel free to rant on some more babble.

[ROB83R]

While I'm looking for ghosts, why don't you look at your original reply... It is unlike me to respond to something like this, however, when you contradict yourself so openly and then suggest later that you "will let fly" I feel I should again question your statements.....

I said you assumed....like it was riders fault... why.... well... Deisel, who said deisel???? and then " the ONLY time you dont see it unless you're too close"..... if you were not making assumptions, then what is the relevance of these statements???? I might suggest that the only time one highsides on the "Pass" is when they're pissed...... relative no!.... but after a story like that would you not think that an assumption or fact was being made??? You are naive... And to then state later that it is an increased likelyhood to miss deisel when travelling close to another vehicle, is a dumbing down of what you originally stated......
You know, I sincerely hope that none of us come to greif on the pass due to oil or deisel. or anything...... but specially you.... because hopefully you will be able to walk away and not be stretchered, as you realise that it can happen to any one us......

Im not one to pick at peoples posts, but I can't see anywhere in zroys post where he has laid blame on the rider or had a go at cagers. He has just given possible causes.


Good to hear the rider made it out in one piece and breathing.
Extremely lucky and possible excuse to purchase a lottery ticket.

[Johnny]

Extremely lucky and possible excuse to purchase a lottery ticket.
No point, he used all his luck there and then, and the log being there to save him rolling further down the mountain was the supplementary number thrown in :lmao:

[Naked Twin]

Highsided aye :confused1: on a spot of oil :confused1:.
Wouldn't have the front wheel gone over it first; therefore??? :stirthepot:

Not necessarily so as the front wheel takes slightly different line to the back due to its diameter. I crashed an FZ1 going through a gravel patch, the front didn't move an inch and from what I could gather after the even only went through edge of it, but the back stepped out and laid straight down (low side) and sent me sliding backwards on my ass down the road. Worst part was I wasn't pushing hard I was taking it easy, never do that again

Roy I think your post implied the rider wasn't paying attention or was sitting too close to the vehicle in front. I think historically it could be said that you have been critical of riders own mistakes and this maybe the preceding reason why frosty has assumed you are questioning the riders ability. We are a prisoner of our past.

With regards to being able to see diesel/ oil, I wouldn't be so certain that the most attentive rider will be able to see it in all situations. It is definitely easier to see it in the wet as it appears like a rainbow, but in the dry when you have relatively new tar and shadows like on the pass this can make it a far more difficult process as you do not always get that reflection, as there is no moisture.

In any case we are all making assumptions about what happened as none of us was there.

Nick

[NME69]

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[frostyscurse]

Let us let sleeping dogs lie.... I rarely find myself critical, so just for the record, I dont withdraw my veiw, however I should not allow myself to attack others charecter.

Dave Bourne

[ROB83R]

Let us let sleeping dogs lie.... I rarely find myself critical, so just for the record, I dont withdraw my veiw, however I should not allow myself to attack others charecter.

Dave Bourne

Respect!

[Mono]

:popcorn: Love this shit...how you been Frostyscurse..when we going riding again?

[_chado77]

:popcorn: Love this shit...how you been Frostyscurse..when we going riding again?

where you been hiding..when we riding and:beer: again soon..hooch 30 soon so better put in for leave pass:ayyy:..

[KW4K4]

however I should not allow myself to attack others charecter.

Well that wont stop me from attacking you - learn to spell when you are on your soap box.

[Dave75]

poor bloke

[Irish]

Sounds like this thread is running out of steam.

Anyway - shame the poor bugger bought a Blade in the first place - wouldn't have fallen off at all if he'd bought a decent bike - like a 1098S for instance :stirthepot:

[Zee]

Yeah..internet wars a so immature ....so how come their threads receive the biggest number of hits :lmao:

[frostyscurse]

Well that wont stop me from attacking you - learn to spell when you are on your soap box.

Sory abowt that.....
Am keen for a ride with you boys fromn tyhe souf, anytime... if you can handle my critical ways....

I'd be up for a Sunday ride... any plans???

[surly]

In the last several days (I saw it last night) Macquarie pass has been extensively resurfaced. Perhaps half of its length now is fresh (fantastic) new surface. Traction in my subaru is awesome, but if I were on the bike I wouldn't have been testing it for fear of what could have been around every bend. Roadworks should end today (20th), I'm looking forward to my next trip down it.

I can't remember exactly what it was like on the 15th (if thats the correct date of the accident), but it would have been a mess then - greasy, dirt, roadworks, and perhaps the fresh repairs that seemed to have edges right underneath my lines that were not good to climb up or fall off mid corner.

Sometimes after a few weeks without real rain the entire surface of the pass has a sheen on it that you can see. It often gets slightly wet and crazy slippery, but without enough rain to rinse it. I've got used to testing the traction in a car and its _fun_ when its a big slip and slide in the car - but I'm nowhere good enough to be anything but cautious on the bike unless its one of those days when it has been washed by heavy rain recently, clean and dry. Then I do a few laps if I have time :)

[quickchick]

Well that puts a new outlook on it surly.

Glad to hear the dude that crashed is still in one piece.

[rats666]

Anyway - shame the poor bugger bought a Blade in the first place - wouldn't have fallen off at all if he'd bought a decent bike - like a 1098S for instance :stirthepot:

Damn, you beat me to it.... I read this whole thread (due to being away for a week), hoping to :stirthepot:, damn.

By the way, WOW, some of you need to relax... take a holiday or something. :ninja:

[Mono]

where you been hiding..when we riding and:beer: again soon..hooch 30 soon so better put in for leave pass:ayyy:..

Its all done with SMS now mate...didn't you know???:lmao: Maybe your on the OUTER circle..:lmao::lmao::lmao: You got my number, just give me a bell when your up for a fang. Say G'day to Hooch..whens the festivities?

[Munga]

Very interesting thread. Peoples views on responsibility make interesting reading. I take the view that i am in the wrong no matter what. Therefore I will always be thinking ahead of every given situation, Its a game i play with myself. Because if I'm on my ass sliding down the road saying, what an idiot that driver, rider, road kill, myself was, it's all ready to late. I should have seen it coming. To me its just part of the fun.

As to the stalker, thats my name for the old mate who crashed. Mate it was coming, if you sit at the bottom of the pass and wait for riders to hunt down one day a combination of cold tyres and rt wrist will bring you undone. So many of us were not surprised that you crashed. I'm glad you will be ok and I'm more glad that a fellow rider was not pushed, dragged into a crash with you. There was no oil, diesel, water, snakes, or elephant's dung. Just a lack judgment. Get well soon.
Cheers

[Turtle]

Went up there today, its sensational after the resurface job.......:ayyy:

[ozimoto]

Very interesting thread. Peoples views on responsibility make interesting reading. I take the view that i am in the wrong no matter what. Therefore I will always be thinking ahead of every given situation, Its a game i play with myself. Because if I'm on my ass sliding down the road saying, what an idiot that driver, rider, road kill, myself was, it's all ready to late. I should have seen it coming. To me its just part of the fun.

As to the stalker, thats my name for the old mate who crashed. Mate it was coming, if you sit at the bottom of the pass and wait for riders to hunt down one day a combination of cold tyres and rt wrist will bring you undone. So many of us were not surprised that you crashed. I'm glad you will be ok and I'm more glad that a fellow rider was not pushed, dragged into a crash with you. There was no oil, diesel, water, snakes, or elephant's dung. Just a lack judgment. Get well soon.
Cheers

Jeez Munga, now everyone knows it was lack of judgement and skills that brought him undone.:dohsmiley:

I wonder which stats they will record his crash under.:thinking:Probably single bike accident blaming speed.:headshake:

[frostyscurse]

"Very interesting thread. Peoples views on responsibility make interesting reading. I take the view that i am in the wrong no matter what. Therefore I will always be thinking ahead of every given situation, Its a game i play with myself. Because if I'm on my ass sliding down the road saying, what an idiot that driver, rider, road kill, myself was, it's all ready to late. I should have seen it coming. To me its just part of the fun.

As to the stalker, thats my name for the old mate who crashed. Mate it was coming, if you sit at the bottom of the pass and wait for riders to hunt down one day a combination of cold tyres and rt wrist will bring you undone. So many of us were not surprised that you crashed. I'm glad you will be ok and I'm more glad that a fellow rider was not pushed, dragged into a crash with you. There was no oil, diesel, water, snakes, or elephant's dung. Just a lack judgment. Get well soon.
Cheers[/QUOTE]

Mate,... I'm not bing argumentative or anything, but if you get T-boned by a semi one day at say a controlled intersection, you've got the green light and minimal side street vision... then I hope you live to blame yourself....

I agree with you're sentiment in a way,...in that there is always more than one contributing factor in an accident... ofcourse the rider has a responsability in the outcome,... but the rider cannot control all things.... this too is reflected life....

[Birdman]

Went up there today, its sensational after the resurface job.......:ayyy:


did i give you some black lines to follow???? felt it was my duty to lay some rubber down on the new tar to give other riders more grip ha ha ha

just a pity about plod on the way home

[zRoYz]

did i give you some black lines to follow???? felt it was my duty to lay some rubber down on the new tar to give other riders more grip ha ha ha

Your just a hoon :)

I also left black lines today when taking my nanna out, but discovered it was just her colostomy bag had a leak.

[Birdman]

Your just a hoon :)

I also left black lines today when taking my nanna out, but discovered it was just her colostomy bag had a leak.


ewwwww

oh and no more of a hoon than you!!!!!!!!!!!!

That FastGirl's a bit of a hoon too, hope she never gets a thou :lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Turtle]

did i give you some black lines to follow???? felt it was my duty to lay some rubber down on the new tar to give other riders more grip ha ha ha

just a pity about plod on the way home

Um.not sure dude........hard to see because the surface is quite "Black" being new.......will check next time :ayyy:

[Belinda]

ewwwww

oh and no more of a hoon than you!!!!!!!!!!!!

That FastGirl's a bit of a hoon too, hope she never gets a thou :lmao::lmao::lmao:

:lmao: yeah right! I have asked Kat00 for a name change! Some people wont ride with me anymore....:stirthepot:

[triumph]

Your just a hoon :)

I also left black lines today when taking my nanna out, but discovered it was just her colostomy bag had a leak. you shouldnt treat your nanna like that . she may come back and haunt you .

[Munga]

Hey Birdman

Mate,... I'm not bing argumentative or anything, but if you get T-boned by a semi one day at say a controlled intersection, you've got the green light and minimal side street vision... then I hope you live to blame yourself....

Me to, but better yet I hope that I see the trap first and avoid the whole thing. We can only try

[Turtle]

:lmao: yeah right! I have asked Kat00 for a name change! Some people wont ride with me anymore....:stirthepot:

I think you should keep the name.........you are FAST !!!!

[_chado77]

Its all done with SMS now mate...didn't you know???:lmao: Maybe your on the OUTER circle..:lmao::lmao::lmao: You got my number, just give me a bell when your up for a fang. Say G'day to Hooch..whens the festivities?


of course i am:ayyy: is there anyother circle with that group

but on the good news i have the finish line in site from a very hectic 2-3 months of work with bull shit hours..

1st full weekend off in nearly 3 months:crysmiley:..so going to make the best of it..

Harrys run on friday night..

Saturday local pub loop:ayyy:


hopefully be able to beat my 120kms i ve put on the bike since Jan in one ride:dohsmiley::lmao:

ya firing up:ayyy:

[Birdman]

:lmao: yeah right! I have asked Kat00 for a name change! Some people wont ride with me anymore....:stirthepot:

nooooo FastGirl is fine, i like riding with people you dont have to wait for :ayyy:

just remember next time no tight singlets :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Birdman]

Hey Birdman

Mate,... I'm not bing argumentative or anything, but if you get T-boned by a semi one day at say a controlled intersection, you've got the green light and minimal side street vision... then I hope you live to blame yourself....

Me to, but better yet I hope that I see the trap first and avoid the whole thing. We can only try


Hey Munga, sorry but were you on drugs when you wrote this cause the point your trying to make, i have no idea what it is or how you might be argumentative

[Belinda]

nooooo FastGirl is fine, i like riding with people you dont have to wait for :ayyy:

just remember next time no tight singlets :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Im going to regret telling that story............careful, you might not hear any more funny stories

[Munga]

Arrr!! ok seem's clear to me. no worries, see ya at the track.

[Birdman]

yeah maybe, over the track think the bike will go soon

[Turtle]

nooooo FastGirl is fine, i like riding with people you dont have to wait for :ayyy:

just remember next time no tight singlets :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

:lmao: yes there will be Strict rules to the next ride day, 'ey Birdy ??
What about that other ride you were gonna post up ?? :lmao:


Im going to regret telling that story............careful, you might not hear any more funny stories

yeah yeah yeah .......

[Birdman]

:lmao: yes there will be Strict rules to the next ride day, 'ey Birdy ??
What about that other ride you were gonna post up ?? :lmao:



yeah yeah yeah .......

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: gotta do that ride hey

[Turtle]

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: gotta do that ride hey

Just have to remember all those requirements........one comes to mind ?? I ??